chartpolski 27,329 Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 Just now, Pardus said: You tell me? Definitely not 180 mile, I'd say 15 mile is fair though? What if Sunderland didn’t have a team ? Would our Derby be with Middlesbrough? To take it to ad absurdum, what if our nearest team was Leeds? Would they be our Derby ? Teams in the same city is a Derby…anything else is a rivalry, just in my opinion though, others may disagree. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, chartpolski said: What if Sunderland didn’t have a team ? Would our Derby be with Middlesbrough? To take it to ad absurdum, what if our nearest team was Leeds? Would they be our Derby ? Teams in the same city is a Derby…anything else is a rivalry, just in my opinion though, others may disagree. Cheers. I don't make the rules, but I've posted two sources citing the same, and all other sources say the same, a Derby is a game of two clubs who are geographically close to each other, you can class it as you wish mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,124 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Pardus said: I don't think you are as much as you think mate, take for instance Leeds UTD, it's classed as a derby when they play Huddersfield Town. It is and has always been known as a West Yorkshire derby. For as long as ive been following football Leeds rivals were always Man Utd,thats doesnt make it a derby game ! If you think that West Ham and Brentford..... Millwall and Arsenal .....Wolves and Walsall etc etc are derby games then you clearly havent been around active football fans through the generations. Palace and Brighton now book themselves as rivals......but its not a derby......you cant just make it up as you go,or maybe you can but thats why people dont buy into these made up " derbies " 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Just now, gnasher16 said: For as long as ive been following football Leeds rivals were always Man Utd,thats doesnt make it a derby game ! If you think that West Ham and Brentford..... Millwall and Arsenal .....Wolves and Walsall etc etc are derby games then you clearly havent been around active football fans through the generations. Palace and Brighton now book themselves as rivals......but its not a derby......you cant just make it up as you go,or maybe you can but thats why people dont buy into these made up " derbies " Eh? Who said Man UTD and Leeds UTD was a Derby? They hate each other and it's a big rivalry but it's never been classed as a Derby. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,454 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 I’m going to wake up screaming “JOE BOLTON !!” In the middle of the night after this tragic news ! At least us West Ham fans have our historic rivals back ! lol lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,124 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 54 minutes ago, Pardus said: No, I wouldn't because I'd always class it as a Derby. If Gateshead miraculously worked their way up to the Premier League you can bet your last dollar you'd be then classing it as a Derby with Newcastle. Leyton Orient are the closest club to West Ham geographically......we played them years ago....nobody.....and i mean nobody from either club ever have or ever will see it is any sort of rivalry/derby. As many other West Ham fans will i would love to see Orient win their play off game tomorrow.....hardly rivalry/derby mentality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,329 Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, WILF said: I’m going to wake up screaming “JOE BOLTON !!” In the middle of the night after this tragic news ! At least us West Ham fans have our historic rivals back ! lol lol Driven into the sea, pit boots and donkey jackets, Ah the memories ……the great West Ham v Sunderland Derby ! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Leyton Orient are the closest club to West Ham geographically......we played them years ago....nobody.....and i mean nobody from either club ever have or ever will see it is any sort of rivalry/derby. As many other West Ham fans will i would love to see Orient win their play off game tomorrow.....hardly rivalry/derby mentality. Because you're seeing it through the eyes of a rivalry. Again, if Orient worked their way up to the Premier League you'd certainly start classing it as a Derby game? Edited May 24 by Pardus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,732 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Leyton Orient are the closest club to West Ham geographically......we played them years ago....nobody.....and i mean nobody from either club ever have or ever will see it is any sort of rivalry/derby. As many other West Ham fans will i would love to see Orient win their play off game tomorrow.....hardly rivalry/derby mentality. I’ve read this before about those two clubs on a forum , is it a case of West Ham are away, f**k it well go watch orient ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,335 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 12 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m going to wake up screaming “JOE BOLTON !!” In the middle of the night after this tragic news ! At least us West Ham fans have our historic rivals back ! lol lol I just shot out of a bad dream screaming "Denbeigh Road"... some past trauma i think 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,124 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 52 minutes ago, Pardus said: You tell me? Definitely not 180 mile, I'd say 15 mile is fair though? That makes around 12/13 teams rivals to my mighty Hammers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,124 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 22 minutes ago, Pardus said: Eh? Who said Man UTD and Leeds UTD was a Derby? They hate each other and it's a big rivalry but it's never been classed as a Derby. ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,347 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 7 minutes ago, Pardus said: Because you're seeing it through the eyes of a rivalry. Again, if Orient worked their way up to the Premier League you'd certainly start classing it as a Derby game? No they wouldn't there's historical rivalry like with spurs that aren't even deby games they would class as more a rival than orient 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,124 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 15 minutes ago, Pardus said: Because you're seeing it through the eyes of a rivalry. Again, if Orient worked their way up to the Premier League you'd certainly start classing it as a Derby game? So.....the West Ham/Millwall rivalry,one of the oldest rivalries in English football,a rivalry of over 120 years is suddenly going to be brushed under the carpet and forgotten about if Orient win their play off game tomorrow and then get up into the Premier League next year This conversation has become too silly to bother with. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,124 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 11 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I’ve read this before about those two clubs on a forum , is it a case of West Ham are away, f**k it well go watch orient ? It is mate yes....or Dagenham & Redbridge........to have hostility to either club would be to pretend they are a threat....and they are not,never have been. Hackney Marshes is the common ground between West Ham and Orient many players have come off those pitches to the O's,the better ones would go to West Ham its just the way its been. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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