Boots,Bear & Rose..

[TOMO 28,330]

Just now, mC HULL said:

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Come on wake up....get with the program 

[mC HULL 15,510]

36 minutes ago, TOMO said:

Come on wake up....get with the program 

the black uns ? with bull in 

[mC HULL 15,510]

16 hours ago, FUJI said:

These young dogs are a 1/4 Saluki Dodge with 5/8 Grey..they only have 1/8 Bull in them,I guess they aren't too far off being 3/4 Grey 1/4 Saluki & being honest Dodge,they may lack a bit of staying power but they are out of our own dog's & we know what they are capable of doing & what they can't do,I've bought dogs in over the year's out of 'so called world beater's/champions' & all bar one or possibly two have been mediocre at the best,I just don't trust anyone in this game or very very few,99.9% are full of shit & or are happy with mediocre/poor mutts,this internet opened my eyes many years ago Dodge it really did. I'll admit I'm just a part-time hunter these day's but I'll always be honest regarding my dog's,what they do & what they won't do & I'll always be honest about myself. I'm lucky to get out hunting twice weekly these day's but I have 4 lads that all work dog's so my dogs are out several times weekly so they get to see more action than I that's for sure. I've found out over many year's running dog's that a 5/8 or 3/4 bred of pretty much any cross is handy enough where I run so that's what I now run,on a personal note I've only ever seen one genuine half cross that being a Bull x Greyhound that was really good & that was more so on teeth but it could muster a good bag of bunnies too if needed be, second,third generation half crosses are a different thing but personally apart from that one dog called Shane I've never ever seen even a half decent genuine half cross & that's why I'd never own one nor ever have quite simply they just don't do it where I work my dog's,a 3/4 bred well I've seen dozens of excellent worker's so I'd always go that route over a genuine half cross if I needed too. These thing's I currently have & the pups are all 5/8 Grey as is Boots too..if the pups do half as well as them then happy day's..these pups will no doubt outlive me, hopefully I can see them do a bit before father time calls me home,I'm almost 60 now bud so the year's have really crept up on me,still according to this Garmin Fenix watch I wear it reckons my VO2 max info isn't too bad & my fitness age is that of a 46 year old..I'm not sure if that makes me feel any better though as my back,knees,hips,ankles & wrists are all fecked but I'll keep plodding on for as long as I can matey..

got to agree theres a lot of shite im looking stud for next year most likely see how many let me see the dog this winter lol seen one or 2 i like look of on film 

[TOMO 28,330]

Andy...how heavy was boots?

[FUJI 17,623]

57 minutes ago, TOMO said:

Andy...how heavy was boots?

Boots when last weighed at the vet's was 35.55kg Tomo..at this current moment he's probably 40kg plus,he's just enjoying retirement now,eating & sleeping for the most,still gets 3 walks daily but not excessive exercise like he used to get. Old dog will be 13 come October 1st,he looks very well to be fair to him, absolutely gleaming he is.

[Daniel cain 48,212]

5 hours ago, mC HULL said:

got to agree theres a lot of shite im looking stud for next year most likely see how many let me see the dog this winter lol seen one or 2 i like look of on film 

Them films can be manipulated ...If I was going to introduce new blood in to any line breed family of dogs,earth or runners ,I would be out watching as many in the flesh doing their thing over at least a full season...see if they are the real deal....just because they got big names behind them,don't mean they are gonna be tested to the Max....most mens egos won't allow them,to give a dog to certain folks.... because they will and can break them with ease....But not to worry,they can then sell them to the yanks and Arabs for a few bags

[FUJI 17,623]

FAO Dodger..here's a really old clip of a dog I bred out of my old dog Jack that you travelled up to see run many moons ago now,just thought I'd put it on for the craic..this dog was litter brother to Chester.

 

[FUJI 17,623]

 

[dodger 3,570]

1 hour ago, FUJI said:

FAO Dodger..here's a really old clip of a dog I bred out of my old dog Jack that you travelled up to see run many moons ago now,just thought I'd put it on for the craic..this dog was litter brother to Chester.

 

Dangerous that nice style be good for them into matching gets scary if your opponents just knocked there's over n didn't even break sweat eh..

I enjoyed the times you had me n topper up there I don't even have a pic of him now

 I'm not as good as dog man as you but you was on my wave length you liked to run them hard and I don't remember how many we ran those times but it was alot and you g h weren't shy how to get that work load for em but very very funny and eventual I'm not sure else how to describe lol, miss it good times 

 

[FUJI 17,623]

Same dog out of my two Jack x Kelsey..not too shabby considering Minshaw's are renowned for their lamping endeavours..this dog here is actually half brother to Venus of Tomo's,Swift I owned & even my Don dog.

[FUJI 17,623]

42 minutes ago, dodger said:

Dangerous that nice style be good for them into matching gets scary if your opponents just knocked there's over n didn't even break sweat eh..

I enjoyed the times you had me n topper up there I don't even have a pic of him now

 I'm not as good as dog man as you but you was on my wave length you liked to run them hard and I don't remember how many we ran those times but it was alot and you g h weren't shy how to get that work load for em but very very funny and eventual I'm not sure else how to describe lol, miss it good times 

 

Don't underestimate yourself Dodge,I know that you've had some serious animals in your kennels & done a hundred times more than I daytime .. likewise regarding our trips that are too many year's ago for my liking,the years pass me by so quickly these day's..I always remember when Topper caught 14 or was it 16 I can't quite remember now,Chester was lame & Topper got some serious running without so much as a five minute break,we gave him some real hammer & to be fair to him he kept on giving his everything,he was a superb dog,retrieved everything as good as a gundog..I really rated him & always will,you travelled with him to test him & see what he could do & he done you proud,there wasn't many dog's that could run the amount he did within the timeframe,great dog & even though he'd never encountered so many runs in one session you had him fit enough to do it..they were great times & the laughs we had along the way well they too were highlights of our forays..great memories Dodge..I just wish I was a bit younger mate,we would still be at it I'm sure of it

[dodger 3,570]

26 minutes ago, FUJI said:

Same dog out of my two Jack x Kelsey..not too shabby considering Minshaw's are renowned for their lamping endeavours..this dog here is actually half brother to Venus of Tomo's,Swift I owned & even my Don dog.

Really tight on that one aswell I do remember g h saying Chester killed hares on altar 

[dodger 3,570]

16 minutes ago, FUJI said:

Don't underestimate yourself Dodge,I know that you've had some serious animals in your kennels & done a hundred times more than I daytime .. likewise regarding our trips that are too many year's ago for my liking,the years pass me by so quickly these day's..I always remember when Topper caught 14 or was it 16 I can't quite remember now,Chester was lame & Topper got some serious running without so much as a five minute break,we gave him some real hammer & to be fair to him he kept on giving his everything,he was a superb dog,retrieved everything as good as a gundog..I really rated him & always will,you travelled with him to test him & see what he could do & he done you proud,there wasn't many dog's that could run the amount he did within the timeframe,great dog & even though he'd never encountered so many runs in one session you had him fit enough to do it..they were great times & the laughs we had along the way well they too were highlights of our forays..great memories Dodge..I just wish I was a bit younger mate,we would still be at it I'm sure of it

Yeh that's right Chester went lame didn't he n pressure was as there was still hares need weighing in and yeh that was how you lads did it wasn't it hardly any breaks between runs.

Yeh I should've got a pup from him he had some good old school blood in him kippers cruiser and dean..

Yeh I worked dogs hard but what a good man I think there's a bit more to it than that sometimes I look at dogs and think they look well and other times not so well were as some people are good stock men there animals look good all the time.

I also have nothing to show for the good dogs I had, IV had a few right good dogs and at 45 now it would be nice if I had bred and kept aine going until now similar to yourself and others that would be rewarding and looking back at all those days and nights and miles blood sweat n tears to get to whats here running now so to speak..

[FUJI 17,623]

My pup Tino yesterday..he's unfortunately carrying an injury at the moment which is preventing us cracking on with his education,especially jumping & anything more than just walking really..pups doing what pups do 'playing and fighting' his sister Maggie ran directly in front of him when he was coursing about & he hit her side on & had his front end taken away & he skidded about 10-15 foot on what looked like his chin,it took him around 30 seconds to gather himself up off the ground,he walks 100% sound but I can see at a jog he's not stretching out on his front end,it's nothing untoward but it's obviously sore & bruised in his chest area,so steady away for a fortnight & in the portamag a couple of times a day for him. Initially I thought nothing of it but my lad had him out over the fields just continuing the pups livestock training & he rang me to say Tino wouldn't & couldn't jump even the smallest of fences & gates which rang alarm bells straight away as he'd been jumping gates etc at 4 1/2 month's old. I was just at the boneman's last week too so could have had him looked over just to be sure, anyways I'll have him looked over before the season starts along with the others just so they are all good to go..there's never a stress free day when you have a team of dogs that's for sure..

[mC HULL 15,510]

On 22/05/2025 at 14:08, Daniel cain said:

Them films can be manipulated ...If I was going to introduce new blood in to any line breed family of dogs,earth or runners ,I would be out watching as many in the flesh doing their thing over at least a full season...see if they are the real deal....just because they got big names behind them,don't mean they are gonna be tested to the Max....most mens egos won't allow them,to give a dog to certain folks.... because they will and can break them with ease....But not to worry,they can then sell them to the yanks and Arabs for a few bags

how ? i can see un first 20 secs whats whats what mate 

i only need to see a dog run a few right time a the year if it hasn’t been hard at it all season it shows mate