WILF 49,947 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Qbgrey said: The plumber I use is £365 aday plus vat ffs. Jukel wouldn’t use him, he is one of the “super rich” lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,644 Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, Qbgrey said: The plumber I use is £365 aday plus vat ffs. I payed £300( mates rates) just for a plumber to sweat up 2 copper pipes off the boiler and up inside the opposite wall for a new shower/bathroom and plumb a radiator a few weeks back...I had a quote for 3k just for the labour to fit the full bathroom suite and I supply and pay for materials on top...f***ing chancers....so fitted it myself 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,416 Posted 20 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, WILF said: Jukel wouldn’t use him, he is one of the “super rich” lol I 'll try again. For the purpose of clarity and absolute undiluted fact, I paid a decent price because I did a deal with the chap to 'massage" his estimate to show that the job took only one hour. It took longer, but I bunged him fifty quid for his own pocket. We lefties may like to think of ourselves as justice warriors but we don't include ordinary blokes in our desire to make society fairer or work ourselves over for that matter. I've done a fair it of wheeling and dealing since I started work at 13. It's part of having respect for yourself and not accepting what 'the man' says all the time. A few years back when I checked, 7% of Scotlands population owned 84% of the wealth. It will be similar in the rest of the UK I guess. Wealth inequality and inequality has grown rapidly in this country, far more than in other comparable countries. It's a stitch up. The right wing press don't tell you about how their mates grab all the goodies and that the people who make the goodies and provide essential services are taken the piss out of. All the media is owned by billionaires who filter and distort the news. Its their way of controlling us. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe this. We have an extremely high rate of child poverty in this country. That is a political decision. Many people work but have to claim state benefits and queue in food banks. That should not happen. Our people have a much lower standard off living than in comparable European industrialised countries. We are having the piss taken big time. Unfortunately when you point these things out, you get lots of people who will put up a spirited and impassioned defence of the system ..you being one of them. You've convinced yourself the blacks are at the bottom of every problem in British society. But they are pawns in the game. Imported for cheap labour. Rather than blame them, blame the people who created the problems, the ultra wealthy and their servants, the politicians . When I pointed out that Johnston and Farage had CAUSED the boat people problem. Not one THL member said I was fundamentally wrong. Because I wasn't. There were no boat people before 2018. The stupidity of Farage and Johston and their careless incompetence in cancelling the Dublin agreement meant immigrants arriving on small, boats could not be immediately sent back. So instead of surrounding immigrant hotels why not surround their houses and vehemently protest at their lies and deceit? And whist doing so, they might want to surround the houses of dozens of other politicians who, for example, led us into the gulf wars where many of our young men died for nothing and others like Blair and Co who allowed millions and millions of economic migrants to enter the UK and put so much pressure on wages, the NHS, housing and education. Protest about the cause not the effect. It's not about car scratching or petty jealousy or reporting somebody working on the side as you always suggest in a somewhat snidey, underhand way. It's seeing people made poorer and poorer. You got it now old chap?1 Edited 19 hours ago by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,947 Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 46 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I 'll try again. For the purpose of clarity and absolute undiluted fact, I paid a decent price because I did a deal with the chap to 'massage" his estimate to show that the job took only one hour. It took longer, but I bunged him fifty quid for his own pocket. We lefties may like to think of ourselves as justice warriors but we don't include ordinary blokes in our desire to make society fairer or work ourselves over. A few years back 7% of Scotlands population owned 84% of the wealth. It will be similar in the rest of the UK I guess. Wealth inequality and inequality has grown rapidly in this country, far more than in other comparable countries. It's a stitch up. The right wing press don't tell you about how their mates grab all the goodies and that the people who make the goodies and provide essential services are taken the piss out of. All the media is owned by billionaires who filter and distort the news. We have an extremely high rate of child poverty in this country. Many people work but have to claim state benefits and queue in food banks. That should not happen. Our people have a much lower standard off living than in comparable European industrialised countries. We are having the piss taken big time. Unfortunately when you point these things out, you get lots of people who will put up a spirited and impassioned defence of the system ..you being one of them. You've convinced yourself the blacks are at the bottom of every problem in British society. But they are pawns in the game. Imported for cheap labour. Rather than blame them, blame the people who created the problems, the ultra wealthy and their servants, the politicians . When I pointed out that Johnston and Farage had CAUSED the boat people problem. Not one THL member said I was fundamentally wrong. Because I wasn't. There were no boat people before 2018. The stupidity of Farage and Johston and their careless incompetence in cancelling the Dublin agreement meant immigrants arriving on small, boats could not be immediately sent back. So why not surround their houses and vehemently protest at their lies and deceit? And whist doing so, they might want to surround the houses of dozens of other politicians who, for example, led us into the gulf wars where many of our young men died for nothing and others like Blair and Co who allowed millions and millions of economic migrants to enter the UK and put so much pressure on wages, the NHS, housing and education. Yet another example of the poorest people getting mercilessly beaten up. It's not about car scratching or petty jealousy or reporting somebody working on the side as you always suggest in a somewhat snidey, underhand way. It's seeing people made poorer and poorer. You got it now old chap?1 Is it a bit warm old chap?…..you used to have a much better sense of humour ! lol I was almost tempted to write “joke” underneath my posts but I thought you’d suss that out…..my fault old chap, I should have been clear about it. Please don’t report me for hate speech Citizen Smith ! lol (also a joke…..better safe than sorry ! lol ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,582 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 14 hours ago, Daniel cain said: I payed £300( mates rates) just for a plumber to sweat up 2 copper pipes off the boiler and up inside the opposite wall for a new shower/bathroom and plumb a radiator a few weeks back...I had a quote for 3k just for the labour to fit the full bathroom suite and I supply and pay for materials on top...f***ing chancers....so fitted it myself You got off light there dc. My mate fitted my double glazing for free , and it cost me 3k in beer afterwards . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,267 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago I always wonder why most b*****ds on a job/ site extension earn more than me????? I just can’t bring myself to charge that kind of dollar, they turn up late, then it’s cafe time, then they leave early. If your charging too money you have to put the graft in or it leaves a bad feeling between the person paying Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunter 1,596 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, mel b said: You got off light there dc. My mate fitted my double glazing for free , and it cost me 3k in beer afterwards . Mel b I have to get you another bottle of that funky stuff mate it's went Pete tong over this side run out of alcoholic beverages and it got it mate lol il go get you another one tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,644 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Qbgrey said: I always wonder why most b*****ds on a job/ site extension earn more than me????? I just can’t bring myself to charge that kind of dollar, they turn up late, then it’s cafe time, then they leave early. If your charging too money you have to put the graft in or it leaves a bad feeling between the person paying These days I charge a set day rate ,it changes depending on what I'm doing,if I need a labourer then I charge accordingly...and I'm flat out busy, limit myself to 3 days a week ,I got no overheads,fancy vehicles or tools on tick...got a single storey extension coming up,I will do everything bar the electric and gas, from the ground up,then I will be dropping the existing ceilings in the main house 200/300 mm,so I can fit 2 rooms and a bathroom in the attic space,house will then be 7/8 bedrooms depending on the lay out...I will be 10/15 k cheaper than using a building firm,and all the different trades..I will get my rate and make a good drink on top...and the work will still continue to come in....I will never work on another building site ,so long as I got a hole in my arse,my days of carrying every cnut are gone...when I give my word,it's getting done, regardless of what's in the way....Im happy to do the lot myself,then I know it's done properly because I hate having to rely on anyone else 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,582 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 56 minutes ago, gunter said: Mel b I have to get you another bottle of that funky stuff mate it's went Pete tong over this side run out of alcoholic beverages and it got it mate lol il go get you another one tho I had a funny feeling it did . You have to do whatever you have to do in a survival situation mate . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunter 1,596 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, mel b said: I had a funny feeling it did . You have to do whatever you have to do in a survival situation mate . Don't worry il have it sorted lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,582 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, gunter said: Don't worry il have it sorted lol Thankyou very much chief . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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