NEWKID 26,094 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 This is it, the bottom doors with arch will be expensive i reckon! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxdropper 17,092 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, NEWKID said: This is it, the bottom doors with arch will be expensive i reckon! Looks like softwood windows to me mate . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxdropper 17,092 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Looks like soft wood to me mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,968 Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, NEWKID said: This is it, the bottom doors with arch will be expensive i reckon! Yup they won’t be cheap, got to watch them unsupported arches, fall down when windows come out. Oaks too expensive £1500 for a 1050mmx1050mm window 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jok 3,035 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Being brutally honest. Have. Been in the game and for quite a few years. I dealt almost exclusively with a firm in Tamworth, THS standing for Tamworth Hardwood Specialists under the rule of one John Riley. He , quite rightly, realised that that the future was in UPVC. The moral of this is, move on. It will be a lot less expensive to have a bespoke UPVC frame made and fitted with virtually no maintenance. You only have to consider the weather which unfortunately expands and contracts the plastics which means a bit of adjustment. I fitted a 6 set of bifolders for a friend and for a little while he was phoning too regularly because of this.I supplied him with a hinge key and that was that. Anyway, they look like the real thing. Hope that helps. Jok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jok 3,035 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Ogbrey. No what mate. Them arches almost can’t possibly collapse. Jok. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 948 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Qbgrey said: Yup they won’t be cheap, got to watch them unsupported arches, fall down when windows come out. Oaks too expensive £1500 for a 1050mmx1050mm window No reason for the arches to fail 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,968 Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 If the lime mortars shit they will fall , if the pugs solid they won’t. Unsupported arches have been banned for years now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,968 Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, jok said: Being brutally honest. Have. Been in the game and for quite a few years. I dealt almost exclusively with a firm in Tamworth, THS standing for Tamworth Hardwood Specialists under the rule of one John Riley. He , quite rightly, realised that that the future was in UPVC. The moral of this is, move on. It will be a lot less expensive to have a bespoke UPVC frame made and fitted with virtually no maintenance. You only have to consider the weather which unfortunately expands and contracts the plastics which means a bit of adjustment. I fitted a 6 set of bifolders for a friend and for a little while he was phoning too regularly because of this.I supplied him with a hinge key and that was that. Anyway, they look like the real thing. Hope that helps. Jok. Would nt look good on a listed building Or a nice new house you wanted to look a bit more elegant, but yes they do some quality upvc stuff nowadays . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,094 Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, foxdropper said: Looks like soft wood to me mate Yes they are currently mate, I changed them in the first cottage to aluminium and it looks decent. But i think ill have to stick with wood on this one, don't want the same sort of shit as these though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,094 Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, W. Katchum said: Most glazers who do that kinda work are pricey as fcuk cos they usually work on listed buildings an stuff, rather than most who use pvc stuff. I know a guy who does exactly them jobs but he in Glasgow an costs a Fcuking fortune cos he fully booked doing all the old buildings, he was moaning to me a few years back about nobody wanting to follow on the trade A old football mate makes all bespoke wood windows, doors etc.. but its mental money... I just dont think ill get away with PVC on this one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,094 Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, jok said: Being brutally honest. Have. Been in the game and for quite a few years. I dealt almost exclusively with a firm in Tamworth, THS standing for Tamworth Hardwood Specialists under the rule of one John Riley. He , quite rightly, realised that that the future was in UPVC. The moral of this is, move on. It will be a lot less expensive to have a bespoke UPVC frame made and fitted with virtually no maintenance. You only have to consider the weather which unfortunately expands and contracts the plastics which means a bit of adjustment. I fitted a 6 set of bifolders for a friend and for a little while he was phoning too regularly because of this.I supplied him with a hinge key and that was that. Anyway, they look like the real thing. Hope that helps. Jok. Its listed mate, I think i may have to stay with wood... plus I'm not sure if PVC really fits the look of the place... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,094 Posted November 3, 2022 Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Qbgrey said: If the lime mortars shit they will fall , if the pugs solid they won’t. Unsupported arches have been banned for years now I'm not a brickie, so don't know, but thought the arches supported themselves once up.. I see what you mean about the mortar being weak though.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,968 Posted November 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 hours ago, NEWKID said: I'm not a brickie, so don't know, but thought the arches supported themselves once up.. I see what you mean about the mortar being weak though.. Yes they will support themselves if done right and the limes still solid which looks like yours are also yours are quite a good radius not a flat arch if you see what I mean. Arches for a long time have to have lintels ( arch forming metal supports) now.peoples used to build them over thier side gates .from a pier onto the house ,the frost gets the joints they hang the gate on the pier and not the house and wonder why the miracle self supporting arch falls down.window fitters don’t help on a soft mortar arch , they get in a crowbar and start loading the arch , prizing it up making it worse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,968 Posted November 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 hours ago, NEWKID said: Its listed mate, I think i may have to stay with wood... plus I'm not sure if PVC really fits the look of the place... Listed !! They dread of any builder. Is conservation officer involved=nightmare??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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