more stabbing

[pesky1972 5,634]

Can’t stand watching those videos, fcukin blood pressure goes off the scale. If, as has been stated, this was a bike theft ‘gone wrong’ and the perpetrator elected to stab his way out of it, then in my eyes it’s pretty straight forward…, it should be a hanging offence.

As mindless as it might seem, I’m much less offended by kids fighting, even stabbing each other over daft allegiances to their streets and towns etc. 

Young men stabbing indiscriminately over a bike worth a few hundred quid, we have zero need for in society.
I would gladly support a police strategy to tackle these petty crooks running round on bikes and mopeds, which involved covert officers armed with tazers and tear gas to disable them, before bundling them into an unmarked van and beating them black and blue, and dumping them back on the street for all to see. Tar and feathering for the modern day. Surely something needs to be done to deter these cnuts!

[DIDO.1 22,862]

Bloke with a knife just been shot by police in Derby. 

Don't know what colour he was.

If he was British colour we will hear no more. If he was foreign colour there will be a 'protest' riot tonight

[Nicepix 5,650]

4 hours ago, Greyman said:

I carry a few decent sized knives with me everyday and everywhere I go, in my pocket and van, I don’t have any intention to stab anyone unless I was under attack so why should I be jailed for the action of some uncivilised youths actions miles away, if you do stick a blade in someone it is an attempted murder for which we have sufficient laws to cover so just enforce the law and stop asking for more unforced law that one day will bite you on the arse, WE DONT NEED MORE LAWS

You will find that carrying knives is already an offence. There was a case that went all the way to the top shop about a chef taking knives home to sharpen them. The wigs decided that this was not a valid reason for carrying them in public. I would think that most hunting knives and those used for gardening, bush craft, etc would also fail the test of law. 

[Greyman 31,527]

5 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

You will find that carrying knives is already an offence. There was a case that went all the way to the top shop about a chef taking knives home to sharpen them. The wigs decided that this was not a valid reason for carrying them in public. I would think that most hunting knives and those used for gardening, bush craft, etc would also fail the test of law. 

Sadly I understand the law probably as much as you but my point is, I know my knives are not legal but I don’t go round threatening to stab people and why should anybody want to stop and search an innocent old man, secondly as I don’t agree with it all I would be willing to stand in the dock and argue my corner, there are very few days in my life I don’t use my knife and I,ve carried one since birth, surely I,m not the only one that remembers buying there first pen knife off the card in the hardware shop after popping in everyday just looking at it till you could raise the 10p for a purchase 

[Nicepix 5,650]

12 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Sadly I understand the law probably as much as you but my point is, I know my knives are not legal but I don’t go round threatening to stab people and why should anybody want to stop and search an innocent old man, secondly as I don’t agree with it all I would be willing to stand in the dock and argue my corner, there are very few days in my life I don’t use my knife and I,ve carried one since birth, surely I,m not the only one that remembers buying there first pen knife off the card in the hardware shop after popping in everyday just looking at it till you could raise the 10p for a purchase 

The key to what you say is in the word 'innocent'. You are not innocent in the eyes of the law no matter what your reasons for possessing a knife. None of the gang members would get away with having a blade 'to whittle a bit of wood' so why should someone genuinely carrying a kife to fillet fish or whatever be regarded differently?

The law is often clouded in confusion, sometimes deliberately imo, but often due to law makers not having real life experience. For example you can't take an air rifle around to your mates to show it off, even a cover or in a car. But you can walk down the High Street with a shotgun. Knife laws are equally questonable, but they are what they are. 

[greg64 3,043]

22 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

The key to what you say is in the word 'innocent'. You are not innocent in the eyes of the law no matter what your reasons for possessing a knife. None of the gang members would get away with having a blade 'to whittle a bit of wood' so why should someone genuinely carrying a kife to fillet fish or whatever be regarded differently?

The law is often clouded in confusion, sometimes deliberately imo, but often due to law makers not having real life experience. For example you can't take an air rifle around to your mates to show it off, even a cover or in a car. But you can walk down the High Street with a shotgun. Knife laws are equally questonable, but they are what they are. 

since when is carrying an air rifle in public an offence if it's covered and your over 18 ?

[DIDO.1 22,862]

19 minutes ago, greg64 said:

since when is carrying an air rifle in public an offence if it's covered and your over 18 ?

Yeah I was going to ask that

[Nicepix 5,650]

20 minutes ago, greg64 said:

since when is carrying an air rifle in public an offence if it's covered and your over 18 ?

The law says;

It is an offence to have an air weapon in a
public place without a reasonable excuse.
It is ultimately for the courts to decide what
a reasonable excuse is. However, it might
include carrying a weapon to and from a
shooting club, or taking a new weapon home
from a dealer.

I asked CPS to clarify whether I could take my air rifle to work, locked in a car in a secure compound, so that I could go straight to the shoot after work. Answer was "No". I had to go home to get the air rifle and then travel straight to the shoot. Having an air weapon in a public place, according to them, only allows for going to or from a dealer after purchase or p/x or for repairs, to and from a location where you have permission to shoot, or a club where you are a member. 

It was a pain in the ar$e but that is what they said.

[greg64 3,043]

29 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

The law says;

It is an offence to have an air weapon in a
public place without a reasonable excuse.
It is ultimately for the courts to decide what
a reasonable excuse is. However, it might
include carrying a weapon to and from a
shooting club, or taking a new weapon home
from a dealer.

I asked CPS to clarify whether I could take my air rifle to work, locked in a car in a secure compound, so that I could go straight to the shoot after work. Answer was "No". I had to go home to get the air rifle and then travel straight to the shoot. Having an air weapon in a public place, according to them, only allows for going to or from a dealer after purchase or p/x or for repairs, to and from a location where you have permission to shoot, or a club where you are a member. 

It was a pain in the ar$e but that is what they said.

so it's not an offence then if you have good reason, thought as much