Ken's Deputy 4,463 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 So, my Bullfrog tank is going to have This as its back drop (Courtesy of Willem Proos of www.travel-pictures-gallery.com ) What I'll then need to do is to make the front diorama, to somehow blend on from that. And contain a real water area for froggyo. Of course, he'll need some land too. Right now though, I'm just pondering the most very basic elements. Should I make a 'pond' effect / hole in his 'ground'? Or, should we be looking straight Into his water, from the front of the tank? Very roughly, like below: What's anyone else think, please? I'm completely undecided.Haven't even had the time to give it a great deal of thought yet. Figured I'd just see what a completely random bunch of unconnected souls might think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Forgive my ignorance Ken but is that actually classed as a Vivarium ?.....i know you have your background picture and im not entirely understanding what a diorama is but i just wondered if you had seen these resin 3d backgrounds you can get now some of them are really effective,great for a natural look to any aquarium/vivarium type thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,554 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said: So, my Bullfrog tank is going to have This as its back drop (Courtesy of Willem Proos of www.travel-pictures-gallery.com ) What I'll then need to do is to make the front diorama, to somehow blend on from that. And contain a real water area for froggyo. Of course, he'll need some land too. Right now though, I'm just pondering the most very basic elements. Should I make a 'pond' effect / hole in his 'ground'? Or, should we be looking straight Into his water, from the front of the tank? Very roughly, like below: What's anyone else think, please? I'm completely undecided.Haven't even had the time to give it a great deal of thought yet. Figured I'd just see what a completely random bunch of unconnected souls might think. Don't want to put a dampener on your enthusiasm, but what is the average lifespan of your type of frog, kd, you might need to get a bit of a shift on? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,463 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Shaaark; Being as these things have lived anything up to Forty Fukking Years, in captivity? I think the only reason I need to get a shift on is if I'm to be around long enough to get my moneys worth out of it all! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,554 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said: Shaaark; Being as these things have lived anything up to Forty Fukking Years, in captivity? I think the only reason I need to get a shift on is if I'm to be around long enough to get my moneys worth out of it all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,419 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Ken's Deputy said: So, my Bullfrog tank is going to have This as its back drop (Courtesy of Willem Proos of www.travel-pictures-gallery.com ) What I'll then need to do is to make the front diorama, to somehow blend on from that. And contain a real water area for froggyo. Of course, he'll need some land too. Right now though, I'm just pondering the most very basic elements. Should I make a 'pond' effect / hole in his 'ground'? Or, should we be looking straight Into his water, from the front of the tank? Very roughly, like below: What's anyone else think, please? I'm completely undecided.Haven't even had the time to give it a great deal of thought yet. Figured I'd just see what a completely random bunch of unconnected souls might think. f***ing hell, with talent like that don’t spend your money mate….draw it yourself ! Lol 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,676 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Ken's Deputy said: So, my Bullfrog tank is going to have This as its back drop (Courtesy of Willem Proos of www.travel-pictures-gallery.com ) What I'll then need to do is to make the front diorama, to somehow blend on from that. And contain a real water area for froggyo. Of course, he'll need some land too. Right now though, I'm just pondering the most very basic elements. Should I make a 'pond' effect / hole in his 'ground'? Or, should we be looking straight Into his water, from the front of the tank? Very roughly, like below: What's anyone else think, please? I'm completely undecided.Haven't even had the time to give it a great deal of thought yet. Figured I'd just see what a completely random bunch of unconnected souls might think. Is that a tick in red pen above the bottom drawing? Go with your instincts. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,463 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said: I just wondered if you had seen these resin 3d backgrounds Yeah ..... Not meaning to split hairs, Gnash'. But, what I'm doing is, strictly, termed a Terrarium. (Paludarium, at a pinch?) Even I don't know what the dividing line is Basically that we tend to keep reptiles in Vivarium's. Terraria tend to be more vegetation oriented and hold amphib's. That's the gist of it, anyway. But, yeah, I've looked at all the commercially available stuff. Always seems to be very rock / desert / lizard / snake / bearded dragon leaning I think it swings the other way, with most 'frog' boys. Because they tend to Make their own backgrounds / dioramas (Diorama is like a little representation of a place. Think Taxidermists display cases and military model bod's). Usually incorporating a shit ton of living plants too. Effects are fukking mind blowing, of course! But, for one reason and another; Fukk That! I'm doing my best on a work around. (Simple truth is; His actual, native environment wouldn't be That glorious anyway. Plus, he's a lump and would wreck most stuff, on the rare occasion he actually moved his arse!) So, yeah. Basically, somewhere, wet, he can sit. The rest is for My (eyes) benefit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,463 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Is that a tick in red pen above the bottom drawing? Go with your instincts. Yeah. That fukking annoyed me too! No idea how it got there. No red pens in this room! And, I don't want to sway the discussion ... But ....! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,554 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said: Yeah ..... Not meaning to split hairs, Gnash'. But, what I'm doing is, strictly, termed a Terrarium. (Paludarium, at a pinch?) Even I don't know what the dividing line is Basically that we tend to keep reptiles in Vivarium's. Terraria tend to be more vegetation oriented and hold amphib's. That's the gist of it, anyway. But, yeah, I've looked at all the commercially available stuff. Always seems to be very rock / desert / lizard / snake / bearded dragon leaning I think it swings the other way, with most 'frog' boys. Because they tend to Make their own backgrounds / dioramas (Diorama is like a little representation of a place. Think Taxidermists display cases and military model bod's). Usually incorporating a shit ton of living plants too. Effects are fukking mind blowing, of course! But, for one reason and another; Fukk That! I'm doing my best on a work around. (Simple truth is; His actual, native environment wouldn't be That glorious anyway. Plus, he's a lump and would wreck most stuff, on the rare occasion he actually moved his arse!) So, yeah. Basically, somewhere, wet, he can sit. The rest is for My (eyes) benefit. Obviously, it's your 'thing', kd. But it seems like a lot of palaver for a f****n frog!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,463 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, shaaark said: seems like a lot of palaver for a f****n frog!! NOoooooo!!!! I'm an 'all or nothing' kind of guy. I don't fukk about! Frog lives in my room, mate. Part of the furniture. Might as well make his shit look as nice as I can. He couldn't give a shit. But, I have to look at the damn thing for the rest of my days. Toads place is quite nice too Got a lovely, commercially available, paper background for his tank Nice, dark shot of ivy, growing up old wood. Lovely,. it it. Ye know how good it is because the mind doesn't even question it. It just Looks right. That's what we aim for 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,676 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said: Yeah. That fukking annoyed me too! No idea how it got there. No red pens in this room! And, I don't want to sway the discussion ... But ....! Does froggy have a red pen???! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,554 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Does froggy have a red pen???! Lol I need some fresh air, I'm imagining all sorts of scenarios where 'froggy' climbed out of his 'lodgings', on the sly, obviously, and ticked the 2nd picture!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,676 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Being serious though, and of course I do not know how much time, trouble and expense may be going into the production of the front dirama, but is it going to be a decision made in stone? Never to be changed? I was in similar predicament myself recently when buying my 1st ever curtains. Blue or beige? I bought both, hung the blue and didn't like them. Put the beige up and they look a lot better. Gave the blue curtains to my sister as an early birthday present. She and her husband did not seem too impressed but it is the thought that counts and I will always ring before I visit to give them time to put them up. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,866 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Ken's Deputy said: Shaaark; Being as these things have lived anything up to Forty Fukking Years, in captivity? I think the only reason I need to get a shift on is if I'm to be around long enough to get my moneys worth out of it all! Forty years....that might not be long enough if you decide to build something to box the fckin tank in. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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