Ken's Deputy 4,462 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Alright; My mind's just in total melt down here. This is like something out of the fukking Esher school of tormenting wood work projects! It just doesn't seem possible. But, it obviously is ..... Isn't it? Christ! I can't even look at the photo any more! It's a head wreck! What the Fukk do I take out of the upright, to make it blend in with the 45 angle of the horizontal??? Is there a way? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 10,060 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 That cut won't be 45. If the 2 pieces of timber are different widths then 1 will be more and the other less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smithie 2,444 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Mark the lines on the new piece of wood and electric plane it Slowly to were it needs to be 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,506 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Once the vertical bit is routered the same as the horizontal bit the joint will match....no ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smithie 2,444 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, dogmandont said: That cut won't be 45. If the 2 pieces of timber are different widths then 1 will be more and the other less. I might be wrong but I think he's a " thats close enough" type of chap 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 10,060 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, smithie said: I might be wrong but I think he's a " thats close enough" type of chap The white wood piece could be slightly to long, couple of mill of it would probably sort it enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,462 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Smithie; Close enough for the illustration, mate, yeah I've just slung the two bits together(ish) to demonstrate the basic issue. Like, I figured out that, if I took the upright and did the same bevel to that? .......... Fukk! Nope. Just can't get my head round it. It's like a visual / mental disconnection. I'm staring at it. But, it's just not going in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 10,060 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Ken's Deputy said: Smithie; Close enough for the illustration, mate, yeah I've just slung the two bits together(ish) to demonstrate the basic issue. Like, I figured out that, if I took the upright and did the same bevel to that? .......... Fukk! Nope. Just can't get my head round it. It's like a visual / mental disconnection. I'm staring at it. But, it's just not going in Is it a frame your putting in an opening? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,462 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, dogmandont said: Is it a frame your putting in an opening? Yes, mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,462 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Shit!!! It's a frame to hold window shutters. The shutters are to hang inside the frame. Bevelled along the bottom to fit against that cross pieces bevel. Should I not just butt joint the frame then? How the Fukk am I supposed to hide the ends of the cross pieces bevel??? Don't worry. I have Loads of 2 x 2!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 10,060 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Ken's Deputy said: Yes, mate. Just knock it up first giving it a few mill tolerance, easier to get the mitres right that way then offer it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,645 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said: Smithie; Close enough for the illustration, mate, yeah I've just slung the two bits together(ish) to demonstrate the basic issue. Like, I figured out that, if I took the upright and did the same bevel to that? .......... Fukk! Nope. Just can't get my head round it. It's like a visual / mental disconnection. I'm staring at it. But, it's just not going in It's not that hard to work out mate (not trying to be a smartarse btw)stop looking at it and thinking about it ,give it a couple of hours ,have another look and you will see it . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,462 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 I think I just saw it, mate As above. Squared ends. I think it would be physically impossible to make shit in such a way that the bottoms of the shutter planks (Did I say it's window shutters?) would somehow fit into and cover any corner cut outs on the uprights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,296 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 You need to project your angles, the difference in width of the timbers is throwing you off, youll need to use a bevel and get your bottom and side angles 1st then draw that onto a piece of paper then measure both widths of timber and draw those on inside the angles you got then where both lines intersect you draw a lice through the intersections and you have youe angles and they will be different 45 degrees and a perfect fit 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken's Deputy 4,462 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Truly appreciate the effort there, Len. But, seriously, ye'd might as well have explained that to a rock! I've gone with simply butting the uprights in. In fact, I'm down to agonising over the precise width of the 'Shutter' boards now. That's another Huge fukking headache, for me. My mind just doesn't work like yours probably does. (Saying that? I'm a notorious 'Over Thinker', these days. Dunno why) But, having struggled so monumentally with a task, my satisfaction at an acceptable and working result will leave me glowing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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