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Its  a shame about all the bs and lies that comes with most them patterdales.

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4 hours ago, chesney said:

Its  a shame about all the bs and lies that comes with most them patterdales.

Its the terrier game full stop Chesney, all bs,lies and jealousy 

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On 28/08/2020 at 16:00, foxdropper said:

Not fallen by the wayside lol just absorbed into the black terriers we have now . There arnt many who can claim  they have kept anything pure from the original breeder .To many lads ,pats are just pats nowadays with no label just black terriers .Years back it was the norm to claim that this and that went back to x or y but nowadays that’s just mostly out the window I’d say .
My take on it is that Wheeler dogs were in part produced to meet the market at the time when big bone ,large heads were in fashion at a time when laws were much more relaxed than they are now .

If I had my time again I would stay away from them as the dog aggression ,looking back was just a royal pain in the arse .Still surfaces today but learnt to get on it before too much damage is done .

Unless sore as hell and knackered ,the first dog I had from him was an out and out c**t to keep and nowadays would be classed as a liability .Until I moved away from the blood later i never knew what a calm terrier was tbh .
Cant say the work suffered for it mind as I was young and keen and gave them as much as they could handle .
Id say the era of that type of terrier has well and truly gone tbh .

Your definitely deluded if you think there isn't circle's of serious men who aren't let's say obsessed in the True linage and history of their terriers they keep where they came from and how their own particular terriers that they keep branched off certain ways by different men at certain times and even Now a days they will still know the true story of what's going on who's xs what... 

The terriers they produce will be an exact replica of the terriers from 50 to 60 years earlier why?? Because the people they get them off and the people they associate with will be certified.. They WON'T tell lies when it comes to maintaining that  history and the men that keep them live to work them terriers and help maintaining that same honesty and true history. 

And No money involved with the real men so no need to lie. 

Results Of honesty in tight honest circles... Well reared well bred pups, good bone and structure, good coats, great Jaws and well set thick teeth

Boisterous yet confident around there older uncles aunts, grandmother,  other dogs or in any situation there all easy to kennel Not dog aggressive ever but no slouch if switch is flicked... Great noses, self enter When ready but good men will know when and where... So when the roof does come in on them.. Not fizzled one bit. 

That churning out pups for candy and taking money from babies... Sounds like the circus sorry circle's your in. 

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Read my post again mate .Just my take on ,no need to get arsey .You have jumped on the fact I say not many lads will have the real deal and I stand by that .Rest of your posts seems common sense and I wouldn’t expect much more from a well bred pup .As for circles I move in ,used to move in they were fine mate ,never sold a single terrier pup in my life .Can you say same 🤥

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11 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Read my post again mate .Just my take on ,no need to get arsey .You have jumped on the fact I say not many lads will have the real deal and I stand by that .Rest of your posts seems common sense and I wouldn’t expect much more from a well bred pup .As for circles I move in ,used to move in they were fine mate ,never sold a single terrier pup in my life .Can you say same 🤥

I read it grassdropper.. Are you seriously going to act as if you know me? 

Or know anyone who does...  😔

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Wtf .I don’t know you from Adam and I’ve only asked if you can say the same ffs .Get off your high horse and chill .

I suppose you think you are one of the elite tucked away over there in your bubble lol .Your stuff won’t be no different to anything else I’ve seen .

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On 29/08/2020 at 21:58, stop.end said:

Your definitely deluded if you think there isn't circle's of serious men who aren't let's say obsessed in the True linage and history of their terriers they keep where they came from and how their own particular terriers that they keep branched off certain ways by different men at certain times and even Now a days they will still know the true story of what's going on who's xs what... 

The terriers they produce will be an exact replica of the terriers from 50 to 60 years earlier why?? Because the people they get them off and the people they associate with will be certified.. They WON'T tell lies when it comes to maintaining that  history and the men that keep them live to work them terriers and help maintaining that same honesty and true history. 

And No money involved with the real men so no need to lie. 

Results Of honesty in tight honest circles... Well reared well bred pups, good bone and structure, good coats, great Jaws and well set thick teeth

Boisterous yet confident around there older uncles aunts, grandmother,  other dogs or in any situation there all easy to kennel Not dog aggressive ever but no slouch if switch is flicked... Great noses, self enter When ready but good men will know when and where... So when the roof does come in on them.. Not fizzled one bit. 

That churning out pups for candy and taking money from babies... Sounds like the circus sorry circle's your in. 

This isn't still wheeler dogs and their owners you're still talking about though is it?

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On 30/08/2020 at 23:12, foxdropper said:

Wtf .I don’t know you from Adam and I’ve only asked if you can say the same ffs .Get off your high horse and chill .

I suppose you think you are one of the elite tucked away over there in your bubble lol .Your stuff won’t be no different to anything else I’ve seen .

No.. But I've been in terriers long enough to know for a Fact... any man who was in it for the pennies.. Was and is just that??.. .. 

And the terriers are nearly a void bet.. He's selling the supposed shit to any shit.... Pedigree unknown as far as I'm concerned fella.. Gassy scrapers way no staying power or heart When the heating is turned up...

Believe me the thing is one of the most important things in terriers is high standards and honesty  I've bought the supposed dream quite a few times through out my time...

But I've been Gifted the best I've ever had... and all is they expect back is the TRUTH.. And future stock..... 

Terriers only ever cost me money... Not make me it..  Elite.. Lol the only elite's I know of is the government thinking there better than anyone else .. While your out shifting chicken coops for rats with mythical beasts..  My young terriers are out and about bench pressing quarry in their own homes.. 😉

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8 hours ago, stop.end said:

No.. But I've been in terriers long enough to know for a Fact... any man who was in it for the pennies.. Was and is just that??.. .. 

And the terriers are nearly a void bet.. He's selling the supposed shit to any shit.... Pedigree unknown as far as I'm concerned fella.. Gassy scrapers way no staying power or heart When the heating is turned up...

Believe me the thing is one of the most important things in terriers is high standards and honesty  I've bought the supposed dream quite a few times through out my time...

But I've been Gifted the best I've ever had... and all is they expect back is the TRUTH.. And future stock..... 

Terriers only ever cost me money... Not make me it..  Elite.. Lol the only elite's I know of is the government thinking there better than anyone else .. While your out shifting chicken coops for rats with mythical beasts..  My young terriers are out and about bench pressing quarry in their own homes.. 😉

Only ever spoke the truth mate so what’s your point .Never sold a terrier in my life .My stuff is so diluted from the original to be nothing like what I started with .The dog I had from him was a bad fighter but put in the graft to match anything I saw elsewhere and better than some .I had to start somewhere and between him and Nuttal they were the only options open to someone not connected with the larger game .Ive been in the game just as long as you mate so know the crack ,I know the flaws and have stated them on here openly .Ive never bigged up anything to get shot of it nor have a advertised a litter .Everything has gone word of mouth to terriermen still at it .

You think rats are the only quarry lol,crack on mate ,I couldn’t care less what you think ..

We can’t discuss real terrierwork properly so what’s the point dragging that up .
You write of things that are fixed in stone in my world too .Took me years to realise I didn’t need fighters in the kennel but it’s a learning curve ,you know that .

Your stock today will have some lines back to that type so don’t think you have reshaped  the wheel ,just put on new tyres .

 

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