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3 minutes ago, TOMO said:

whats consciousness....in basic terms??....what do they mean....

 

Self awareness, awareness of consequences of choices etc rather than just programmed behaviour............ I think.

I'm not really listening properly, and I should because it's shit I want to know. lol

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Anyone watch the Paul Stamets one? I just got round to watching it & I’ve already got some Lions Mane, the psylacibin is next.....?

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2 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Self awareness, awareness of consequences of choices etc rather than just programmed behaviour............ I think.

I'm not really listening properly, and I should because it's shit I want to know. lol

Been told by a reliable person (he has a PHD in AI) the consequence of a choice doesn't count as much. As it can be programmed or learnt through action. Self awareness is the fact it knows what it is and would fear shut down, death or harm. Obviously it not just this.. there is also the decision making reasoning. Would a machine make the decision to allow it's own demise, to save a human life. Can it form friendship and bond... etc and not just technical.

Proper complex this topic. I've had many conversations with my mate about the ethics of AI and the future course. He's adamant with current technology,  the processing power to allow self awareness cannot be achieved. I disagree lol but his PDH trumps my degree in engineering ?

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14 hours ago, mushroom said:

Been told by a reliable person (he has a PHD in AI) the consequence of a choice doesn't count as much. As it can be programmed or learnt through action. Self awareness is the fact it knows what it is and would fear shut down, death or harm. Obviously it not just this.. there is also the decision making reasoning. Would a machine make the decision to allow it's own demise, to save a human life. Can it form friendship and bond... etc and not just technical.

Proper complex this topic. I've had many conversations with my mate about the ethics of AI and the future course. He's adamant with current technology,  the processing power to allow self awareness cannot be achieved. I disagree lol but his PDH trumps my degree in engineering ?

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I don't really want to get into it either but I would just say that AI doesn't require consciousness/sentience to be catastrophically dangerous to it's Homo Sapien creators.

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The things that AI will be able to do are mind blowing.

I think in 100 years.life will be totally different to what we have now.

Interesting snippet here.

Imagine your multiple lives: At 25, you were a mountaineer; at 55, a competitive judo athlete; at 95, a cinematographer; at 155, a poet. Extending the human life span is one of the dreams of the post-singularity world.

AIs will work furiously to keep you healthy. Sensors in your home will constantly test your breath for early signs of cancer, and nanobots will swim through your bloodstream, consuming the plaque in your brain and dissolving blood clots before they can give you a stroke or a heart attack. Your Soulband, as well as finding you a lover, will serve as a medical assistant on call 24/7. It will monitor your immune responses, your proteins and metabolites, developing a long-range picture of your health that will give doctors a precise idea of what’s happening inside your body.

When you do become sick, your doctor will take your symptoms and match them up with many millions of cases stretching back hundreds of years.

As far back as 2018, researchers were already using AI to read the signals from neurons on their way to the brain, hacking the nerve pathways to restore mobility to paraplegics and patients suffering from locked-in syndrome, in which they are paralyzed but remain conscious. By 2065, AI has revolutionized the modification of our genomes. Scientists can edit human DNA the way an editor corrects a bad manuscript, snipping out the inferior sections and replacing them with strong, beneficial genes. Only a superintelligent system could map the phenomenally complex interplay of gene mutations that gives rise to a genius pianist or a star second baseman. There may well be another Supreme Court case on whether “designer athletes” should be allowed to compete in the Olympics against mere mortals.

Humans look back at the beginning of the 21st century the way people then looked back at the 18th century: a time of sickness and disaster, where children and loved ones were swept away by diseases. Cholera, lung cancer and river blindness no longer threaten us. By 2065, humans are on the verge of freeing themselves from the biology that created them.

 

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47 minutes ago, king said:

The things that AI will be able to do are mind blowing.

I think in 100 years.life will be totally different to what we have now.

Interesting snippet here.

Imagine your multiple lives: At 25, you were a mountaineer; at 55, a competitive judo athlete; at 95, a cinematographer; at 155, a poet. Extending the human life span is one of the dreams of the post-singularity world.

AIs will work furiously to keep you healthy. Sensors in your home will constantly test your breath for early signs of cancer, and nanobots will swim through your bloodstream, consuming the plaque in your brain and dissolving blood clots before they can give you a stroke or a heart attack. Your Soulband, as well as finding you a lover, will serve as a medical assistant on call 24/7. It will monitor your immune responses, your proteins and metabolites, developing a long-range picture of your health that will give doctors a precise idea of what’s happening inside your body.

When you do become sick, your doctor will take your symptoms and match them up with many millions of cases stretching back hundreds of years.

As far back as 2018, researchers were already using AI to read the signals from neurons on their way to the brain, hacking the nerve pathways to restore mobility to paraplegics and patients suffering from locked-in syndrome, in which they are paralyzed but remain conscious. By 2065, AI has revolutionized the modification of our genomes. Scientists can edit human DNA the way an editor corrects a bad manuscript, snipping out the inferior sections and replacing them with strong, beneficial genes. Only a superintelligent system could map the phenomenally complex interplay of gene mutations that gives rise to a genius pianist or a star second baseman. There may well be another Supreme Court case on whether “designer athletes” should be allowed to compete in the Olympics against mere mortals.

Humans look back at the beginning of the 21st century the way people then looked back at the 18th century: a time of sickness and disaster, where children and loved ones were swept away by diseases. Cholera, lung cancer and river blindness no longer threaten us. By 2065, humans are on the verge of freeing themselves from the biology that created them.

 

That's all the 'good'. The 'bad' is right around the next corner.

When AI becomes comprehensively better than humans at everything it'll have serious consequences we will either have to rapidly adapt to or become enslaved by. Especially when combined with engineering advances, essentially revolutionising autonomous machines for everything.

For instance,

  • What are the societal implications of almost every human becoming redundant in every job/task because a machine does it better?
  • What are the implications of a military that is completely autonomous (not just weapons systems but decision makers too)?
  • What will governments and corporations do with the powerful information they can now mine from the huge amounts of data available to them?
  • What are the implications of robots that are more perfect imitations of humans than humans are? Companion robots that are literally a persons perfect romantic partner! Indistinguishable from an actual biological human.
  • Finally and most importantly, what happens to us when we become completely dependant on a race of 'slave' robots, who are better than us in every way and who we have lost given up control to (eventually even design and manufacture of the intelligent robots will be done by the robots)....

And this is just AI. There's plenty of other technologies that scare he piss out of me.

 

 

 

Honestly, if I had a 'Thanos button', my only concern would be hitting it so f***ing hard and often that I broke it! :D

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It's a mind blowing subject that seems to have no limits at all.

The crazier the idea in the future it will be done effortlessly.

And it's happening right now.

Driverless cars etc. 

Cats autonomous mining equipment.

No need for drivers = no jobs. 

Artics on the motorways self driven.

It's crazy.but also sad..

 

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