jigsaw 11,809 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, ryaldinhio said: Will that dodgy cheat work where paint is peeling? We previously had rising damp which was treated with injection. We have a few areas where the paint is peeling off but there is no damp, I believe it is something to do with the historic salts coming through??? Doesn't appear to be any damp issue but paint still flaking. Stableising solution will sort that out 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,809 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Our team said: Undercoat. Oil base. Best cheep trick.. with the possibility of it reappearing ,cheap doesnt cut it im afraid lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,809 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 You a pro painter Our Team? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,809 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Our team said: Yes but more like decorator lol, ME TOO ,41 years at the job ,im a qualified decorator /house painter ...brother of the brush then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,809 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Our team said: Ohh yeh there's loads. Undercoat mint and cheep. Same stuff just diffremt label we subbies so we always go for quick and cheep options.our client's buy us all gear we need and some of them even say undercoat the yellowing from damp on fresh plasterboard it is a old remedy and it's still good it's all about prep work I get you there... Quick and cheap huh?....some decorator you are lol....over here we call that toshing,...make a buck and run to fuk Edited July 6, 2019 by jigsaw 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Our team 370 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, jigsaw said: Quick and cheap huh?....some decorator you are lol....over here we call that toshing,...make a buck and run to fuk No we not like that. We fast and very affective.. I've wallpapered Laura Ashleys all over UK. And we do top new builds. We very quick. And try to save money and time... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Our team 370 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said: What's the name of the company you lot work for. Botch it and scamper? No lol. In and out . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,210 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 15 hours ago, sid g said: things have progressed plenty of good sealers on the market these days .. looks like the op problem could be from putting to much paint on in one hit in hot weather scrape it back seal with zinser easy fill sand reseal with more zinser prior to repainting with emulsion .. Used that zinser over stained wood to repaint, worked really well and on a chimney breast where the black kept coming through the paint, again worked well....it aint cheap but even to a DIY decorator like me I can see the benefits over cheap undercoats... To be honest why any tradesman would admit to doing it cheap and quick is beyond me, we all know a few dosges regardless of the trade but the end result should be top knotch and done to last... This whole ethos around these new builds, chuck em up cheap and move on is crap... swathes of countryside turned into paper thin crap housing, at least build something to last ffs.... the old council houses were solid lumps in the main, you could knock them around a bit, solid walls etc etc.... f***ing shite now with shite trades on them! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Our team 370 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Used that zinser over stained wood to repaint, worked really well and on a chimney breast where the black kept coming through the paint, again worked well....it aint cheap but even to a DIY decorator like me I can see the benefits over cheap undercoats... To be honest why any tradesman would admit to doing it cheap and quick is beyond me, we all know a few dosges regardless of the trade but the end result should be top knotch and done to last... This whole ethos around these new builds, chuck em up cheap and move on is crap... swathes of countryside turned into paper thin crap housing, at least build something to last ffs.... the old council houses were solid lumps in the main, you could knock them around a bit, solid walls etc etc.... f***ing shite now with shite trades on them! Absolutely. They are shite. It's all money today in anything.. As for undercoat. It is a real good sealer. For half the price and it will outlast any of the so called top notch ones... I've used it for yrs and never had a come back.. Inside and out water damage oil tar and salts... I'm curantly working on high rise flats because of grenval towers now this is different. Every paint we apply as be accounted for and logged.. Don't pull me down for undercoat. Try it. If it don't work then pull me down. As for cutting corners some of the best solutions in any trade or otherwise work wonders.. Edited July 7, 2019 by Our team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,210 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Our team said: Absolutely. They are shite. It's all money today in anything.. As for undercoat. It is a real good sealer. For half the price and it will outlast any of the so called top notch ones... I've used it for yrs and never had a come back.. Inside and out water damage oil tar and salts... I'm curantly working on high rise flats because of grenval towers now this is different. Every paint we apply as be accounted for and logged.. Don't pull me down for undercoat. Try it. If it don't work then pull me down. As for cutting corners some of the best solutions in any trade or otherwise work wonders.. Fair enough mate, don't know enough about decorating to "pull you down"... I think it's more to do with the shit parctices on these knock em up quick house builds than just using cheap primer... putting the first coat of paint on still wet plaster... I've been in construction for 25 years, starting on my own in 1998, so seen a fair few tradesman, but now it's put up quick and run... false economy as when your called back to snag you lose money, or the phone stops ringing.... well it used to but with every man and his pole smacking up shit housing with shit practices the phone keeps ringing,,,, Not really aimed at you by the way, just a few of your comments like do it quick and cheap seems to be the way it's going... shame really 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,210 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 regards Grenfall,... a lot of our work is steel frames and cladding, ever since Grenfall insulation is like rocking horse shit and double the price and insulated panels are nearly as bad.... just after it happened we had 2 jobs running that needed specialist insulation, fire resistant rock wool, normally a week max turn around, I had to ring the customers and tell them they were on 10 week lead times...and twice the price....some massive changes brought on in our industry off the back of it.. PS sorry to go off topic... I'll shut up now..lol To original poster, Sid G knows his stuff... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Our team 370 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Fair enough mate, don't know enough about decorating to "pull you down"... I think it's more to do with the shit parctices on these knock em up quick house builds than just using cheap primer... putting the first coat of paint on still wet plaster... I've been in construction for 25 years, starting on my own in 1998, so seen a fair few tradesman, but now it's put up quick and run... false economy as when your called back to snag you lose money, or the phone stops ringing.... well it used to but with every man and his pole smacking up shit housing with shit practices the phone keeps ringing,,,, Not really aimed at you by the way, just a few of your comments like do it quick and cheap seems to be the way it's going... shame really Absolute shame. These new build so called houses last for yrs aparantly.. But how longs a peace of string. I wouldn't buy one. I would Rarther have a council house or stone build.. We call em lego houses. And yes it's cheep shite all way through from begining to end. Shocking what I see most days.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Our team 370 Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, NEWKID said: regards Grenfall,... a lot of our work is steel frames and cladding, ever since Grenfall insulation is like rocking horse shit and double the price and insulated panels are nearly as bad.... just after it happened we had 2 jobs running that needed specialist insulation, fire resistant rock wool, normally a week max turn around, I had to ring the customers and tell them they were on 10 week lead times...and twice the price....some massive changes brought on in our industry off the back of it.. PS sorry to go off topic... I'll shut up now..lol To original poster, Sid G knows his stuff... No problem at all. It's not my thread lol. You know I don't mind a bit of anything lol. Haha yes these high rises we doing are wow propper. They even put flame retardant putty in all plug sockets and it all needs photos and documentation. Crazy. We can't even paint till all docs are signed . Makes some days easy and some hard.. Edited July 7, 2019 by Our team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,453 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 19 hours ago, sid g said: things have progressed plenty of good sealers on the market these days .. looks like the op problem could be from putting to much paint on in one hit in hot weather scrape it back seal with zinser easy fill sand reseal with more zinser prior to repainting with emulsion .. Nope, I NEVER put on too much! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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