MickC 1,825 Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Wilder was gifted his World championship status everybody knows this,when has a Fighter ever been given a title shot after fighting nobody ranked in the top 50 ? They say he has big power but he can only generate this power from wild swings which are laughable when he misses with them.This is an example of how much Wilder is protected. Povetkin has been his mandatory for how long now ?? Wilders two planned fights with Povetkin were called off because of two alleged failed drug tests. One fail was for the now banned Meldonium and the other from an Ostarine fail,problem is Povetkin has never tested positive for a banned substance.The Meldonium case proved to be false as the levels of Meldonium found in Povetkins system were below the allowed limit according to WADA protocol by a magnitude of 15 times below trace amounts left from when the drug was legal.Then the Ostarine case,the level that was detected was again barely above instrument detection limits from sample A which was sent from Russia to be analysed at LA in the USA.The B sample taken at the same time as the A sample has been proven to be negative for any banned substances. America is desperate for Heavyweight World Champion so who has this sort of pull to get Wilder out of having to fight Povetkin in Russia as Povetkins promoter had won both purse bids for both of the alleged fights ? Wilder is so protected a fighter will need to ko him to get a draw.As for Haye not not honouring a fight with Briggs,Gnasher posted on here a while ago that the Haye fight was offered to Briggs but he wanted more money.Briggs has since gone in another direction that will get him a Title shot so there is no chance Briggs will risk it by fighting Haye . Edited February 27, 2017 by MickC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,271 Posted February 27, 2017 Report Share Posted February 27, 2017 Wilder was gifted his World championship status everybody knows this,when has a Fighter ever been given a title shot after fighting nobody ranked in the top 50 ? They say he has big power but he can only generate this power from wild swings which are laughable when he misses with them.This is an example of how much Wilder is protected. Povetkin has been his mandatory for how long now ?? Wilders two planned fights with Povetkin were called off because of two alleged failed drug tests. One fail was for the now banned Meldonium and the other from an Ostarine fail,problem is Povetkin has never tested positive for a banned substance.The Meldonium case proved to be false as the levels of Meldonium found in Povetkins system were below the allowed limit according to WADA protocol by a magnitude of 15 times below trace amounts left from when the drug was legal.Then the Ostarine case,the level that was detected was again barely above instrument detection limits from sample A which was sent from Russia to be analysed at LA in the USA.The B sample taken at the same time as the A sample has been proven to be negative for any banned substances. America is desperate for Heavyweight World Champion so who has this sort of pull to get Wilder out of having to fight Povetkin in Russia as Povetkins promoter had won both purse bids for both of the alleged fights ? Wilder is so protected a fighter will need to ko him to get a draw.As for Haye not not honouring a fight with Briggs,Gnasher posted on here a while ago that the Haye fight was offered to Briggs but he wanted more money.Briggs has since gone in another direction that will get him a Title shot so there is no chance Briggs will risk it by fighting Haye .if wilder is as rubbish as you say, then that's both us heavyweights that were glass chinned and crap and showed how poor the heavyweight division was in, in boxing it's a great time to be British in the heavyweight scene. That Charles Martin was that bad my gr old granny would have kod him, he best just smacking his hos about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,362 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Wilder was gifted his World championship status everybody knows this,when has a Fighter ever been given a title shot after fighting nobody ranked in the top 50 ? Hughie Fury ? As for Haye not not honouring a fight with Briggs,Gnasher posted on here a while ago that the Haye fight was offered to Briggs but he wanted more money.Briggs has since gone in another direction that will get him a Title shot so there is no chance Briggs will risk it by fighting Haye . If i remember right Briggs was offered around a quarter of a mill for the fight but felt that after all the months of self promotion he had done he was due a lot more on pay per view.......to then be brought back down to the real world and told its not a pay per view fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Let's be honest here, both Haye and Briggs are in it for the money alone. If Haye wants a title shot he better make himself a contender instead of facing fat gobby CW's. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Let's be honest here, both Haye and Briggs are in it for the money alone. If Haye wants a title shot he better make himself a contender instead of facing fat gobby CW's.100%. Haye has no intention and probably doesn't care about becoming champ. He's after a few big paydays then he will disapper Funny thing is though I'd pay to see him face Joshua in a heartbeat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I've read you can get 10/1 for a Haye 1st round knockout, I'm having some of that me thinks..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Aye would be a good test for joshua. Hopefully wlad was just having an off night and has something left in him to make it a decent test for a.j. got tickets for that and tickets for burns the fortnight before right lookin forward too it. Few folk on this undercard I'm looking forward to. Always liked Malinaggi and selby is good to watch. The stars are aligned for Joshua, everything is in his favour. Throughout the history of the sport the upcoming star beats the old king 9 times out of 10, for the sports sake Joshua needs to win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) The odds are 8/1 first round, 7/1 second round and 13/2 third round for Haye at William Hill. Get all over that, I'm putting 100 on each even though I fancy Haye in the first round. You're doubling your money if he wins in 3 rounds. Edited February 28, 2017 by DogMan85 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,362 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I've just went for a look on my bet 365. At some point over the weekend no idea when I done it I've stuck a fiver on bellew , matthews and malignaggi treble at 80/1 lol I like your style mate and wish you well..........but i think theres more chance of Bellew winning than Matthews winning ive had my eye on Ohara Davies since he was a kid and with the right attitude and commitment he could be what Kirkland Laing could have been !....its his first real test as Matthews was a good fighter i just think Ohara will have too much for him. I think its almost impossible to tell with Haye/Bellew as nobody knows what Haye has left if he has even half of what he had then it will be a complete mismatch but if not then he could come unstuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 I've just went for a look on my bet 365. At some point over the weekend no idea when I done it I've stuck a fiver on bellew , matthews and malignaggi treble at 80/1 lol I like your style mate and wish you well..........but i think theres more chance of Bellew winning than Matthews winning ive had my eye on Ohara Davies since he was a kid and with the right attitude and commitment he could be what Kirkland Laing could have been !....its his first real test as Matthews was a good fighter i just think Ohara will have too much for him. I think its almost impossible to tell with Haye/Bellew as nobody knows what Haye has left if he has even half of what he had then it will be a complete mismatch but if not then he could come unstuck. will you watch it gnash , on the box or at the ring ? if Haye looses he finished deff , but i think he will ko Bellew maybe 3rd or fourth round Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Rumours are Haye could be pulling out..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,362 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) will you watch it gnash , on the box or at the ring ? if Haye looses he finished deff , but i think he will ko Bellew maybe 3rd or fourth round Yes i,ll be there mate ive a few scouser pals coming down supporting Derry Matthews the Davies/Matthews fight is the main fight im interested in i cant stand these silly carnival fights but yes i make you right if Haye has anything left id be surprised if it gets out the first few rounds......but if it does go past 5 or 6 rounds i think Bellew has a good chance. Edited March 2, 2017 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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