Whip X Greyhound

[matt1979 766]

Had the same issue with my young lurcher, he would occasionally yip on the back of stuff, my fault in all honesty as he has been out since a 12 week old pup on daily mooches and the terrier invariably pushes stuff out and he has run stuff he shouldnt have and whilst too young (unintentionally). He has never done this in the lamp tbh but this habit has disappeared with age I mainly put this down to the dog maturing both physically and mentally and also because he has seen more action and therefore the excitement levels have steadied up. If he hasn't seen much for a few days he will occasionally do the yip nowadays but they are few and fair between and tbh it is something I can live with as he doesn't do the same on the lamp atb

Edited February 8, 2017 by matt1979

[rabbitpoacher 20]

Thats what i thought tbh give him enough rabbits to calm him down a bit hope he stops hes the best pup ive seen run fingers crossed thanks for replys?

[billhardy 2,341]

Had the same issue with my young lurcher, he would occasionally yip on the back of stuff, my fault in all honesty as he has been out since a 12 week old pup on daily mooches and the terrier invariably pushes stuff out and he has run stuff he shouldnt have and whilst too young (unintentionally). He has never done this in the lamp tbh but this habit has disappeared with age I mainly put this down to the dog maturing both physically and mentally and also because he has seen more action and therefore the excitement levels have steadied up. If he hasn't seen much for a few days he will occasionally do the yip nowadays but they are few and fair between and tbh it is something I can live with as he doesn't do the same on the lamp atb

. This his where experience comes in,knowing when one can see a said type animal with excitable levels and entering accordingly little habits such has these often stay with said animal that in hindsight could off been avoided .then of course with the right type one can have em out from six weeks through cover any terrain all sorts put before them and they Neva put a foot wrong temperament the King of all jukel s makes a hell of a lot a difference .atb bunnys.

[crowsnest 55]

I wouldn't put up with that. Feckin pain in the arse. If you feed and kennel a dog you don't want him howling and fussing like that. Spoil a good night's lamping. I tell what I'll do wit you. I'll take him off your hands. no charge. I know an old lady who will take him in and give him a pet home for the rest of his days. I'm not usually as generous as this , but given he's useless for work I'd be doing the dog a favour. No point in putting a good dog down. I'll tell you what..I'll even come and collect him. I can't say more than that.

don't be bothering an old lady with him, i'll have him

[leegreen 2,100]

Lamping is an intense form of hunting. All that's in front of your dog is the prey and its bound to get excited. As said limit the sessions you do with a pup of 10 months, as hard as it is.

[matt1979 766]

 

Had the same issue with my young lurcher, he would occasionally yip on the back of stuff, my fault in all honesty as he has been out since a 12 week old pup on daily mooches and the terrier invariably pushes stuff out and he has run stuff he shouldnt have and whilst too young (unintentionally). He has never done this in the lamp tbh but this habit has disappeared with age I mainly put this down to the dog maturing both physically and mentally and also because he has seen more action and therefore the excitement levels have steadied up. If he hasn't seen much for a few days he will occasionally do the yip nowadays but they are few and fair between and tbh it is something I can live with as he doesn't do the same on the lamp atb

. This his where experience comes in,knowing when one can see a said type animal with excitable levels and entering accordingly little habits such has these often stay with said animal that in hindsight could off been avoided .then of course with the right type one can have em out from six weeks through cover any terrain all sorts put before them and they Neva put a foot wrong temperament the King of all jukel s makes a hell of a lot a difference .atb bunnys.

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It's a balancing act in my eyes and a difficult one at that. I new full well having a young pup off the lead at a young age eager to stretch his legs might cause issues occasionally and I could have left him at home for the kids to pat or lead him up. But flip the coin he is now well socialised, hunts up a treat, knows a variety of game by scent and sight and his basic field craft is in my eyes at least decent for his age. He is also sensible and has a great bond with me. Would this of been the same without early mooches with older dogs and the occasional unintentional run? We will never know but I doubt I will do much different in the future tbh

[my hounds 306]

Got a 10 month old whippet greyhound dog here aint put a foot wrong working wise catching rabbits with ease live to hand on the lamp but first couple of runs he lets out a moan not yapping just excited do u think it will stop or get worse i ran 6 other night caught 5 any advice thank you

Too mutch too soon I would hold back till September/October then very steady with the odd run plus hope fully you have not damaged the dogs heart or lungs or anything else as regards a young developing pup.

[matt1979 766]

 

 

Got a 10 month old whippet greyhound dog here aint put a foot wrong working wise catching rabbits with ease live to hand on the lamp but first couple of runs he lets out a moan not yapping just excited do u think it will stop or get worse i ran 6 other night caught 5 any advice thank you

Too mutch too soon I would hold back till September/October then very steady with the odd run plus hope fully you have not damaged the dogs heart or lungs or anything else as regards a young developing pup.

What would he have damaged his heart or lungs or am I missing something here?

[shaaark 10,140]

 

 

Got a 10 month old whippet greyhound dog here aint put a foot wrong working wise catching rabbits with ease live to hand on the lamp but first couple of runs he lets out a moan not yapping just excited do u think it will stop or get worse i ran 6 other night caught 5 any advice thank you

Too mutch too soon I would hold back till September/October then very steady with the odd run plus hope fully you have not damaged the dogs heart or lungs or anything else as regards a young developing pup.

What would he have damaged his heart or lungs or am I missing something here?

 

Heart or lungs 'or anything else'. The anything else will be injuries, however slight, to tendons, ligaments etc, in toes, shoulders, hips, down the spine, things like that, which many pups ran too young or developed enough will pick up and niggle them throughout their lives. Not saying it happens every time, but you'd be surprised how often and how easily it can happen

[billhardy 2,341]

 

 

Had the same issue with my young lurcher, he would occasionally yip on the back of stuff, my fault in all honesty as he has been out since a 12 week old pup on daily mooches and the terrier invariably pushes stuff out and he has run stuff he shouldnt have and whilst too young (unintentionally). He has never done this in the lamp tbh but this habit has disappeared with age I mainly put this down to the dog maturing both physically and mentally and also because he has seen more action and therefore the excitement levels have steadied up. If he hasn't seen much for a few days he will occasionally do the yip nowadays but they are few and fair between and tbh it is something I can live with as he doesn't do the same on the lamp atb

. This his where experience comes in,knowing when one can see a said type animal with excitable levels and entering accordingly little habits such has these often stay with said animal that in hindsight could off been avoided .then of course with the right type one can have em out from six weeks through cover any terrain all sorts put before them and they Neva put a foot wrong temperament the King of all jukel s makes a hell of a lot a difference .atb bunnys.

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It's a balancing act in my eyes and a difficult one at that. I new full well having a young pup off the lead at a young age eager to stretch his legs might cause issues occasionally and I could have left him at home for the kids to pat or lead him up. But flip the coin he is now well socialised, hunts up a treat, knows a variety of game by scent and sight and his basic field craft is in my eyes at least decent for his age. He is also sensible and has a great bond with me. Would this of been the same without early mooches with older dogs and the occasional unintentional run? We will never know but I doubt I will do much different in the future tbh

. No ones saying not get him out early doors that's a big yes but there's lots a things ta be learned b them in the field other than just running game,some folk just get them out and have them on a jolly lampinglur etc ,that's fine but there're those types and xes that one needs to be more careful with if thy wish to avoid yapping etc ,I have grown up with non pets and finding one that did not open up through cover was a rare thing .holding them back can help ,mostly one sees whipp xes running open ground then it's usually fine it's when they become unsighted which happens on he lamp and also in the day through cover,there's a lot ta be said fa training the animal the countryside code before rushing on ahead of ones self getting them running before stable enough ta cope with the sheer rush of excitement like I says some breeds don't suffer with the affliction but lots do and whips and there xes are high on the list of those that do good luck reel him in next season could be a distant flicker of the problem that can manifest in to something that'll have some folk tearing there hair out.atb bunnys.

[rabbitpoacher 20]

Ive been giving him 2 runs every now and again for about a month now but the other night they were squatting tight i was like a kid at xmas couldnt resist if im honest but hes only missed one since ive ran him and that was a lucky rabbit they were quick short runs so thaught that wouldnt hurt him not like hes struggling

[matt1979 766]

 

 

 

 

Got a 10 month old whippet greyhound dog here aint put a foot wrong working wise catching rabbits with ease live to hand on the lamp but first couple of runs he lets out a moan not yapping just excited do u think it will stop or get worse i ran 6 other night caught 5 any advice thank you

Too mutch too soon I would hold back till September/October then very steady with the odd run plus hope fully you have not damaged the dogs heart or lungs or anything else as regards a young developing pup.

What would he have damaged his heart or lungs or am I missing something here?

Heart or lungs 'or anything else'. The anything else will be injuries, however slight, to tendons, ligaments etc, in toes, shoulders, hips, down the spine, things like that, which many pups ran too young or developed enough will pick up and niggle them throughout their lives. Not saying it happens every time, but you'd be surprised how often and how easily it can happen

Again it's a balancing act with sensible exercise, b I never quiet get the science behind the argument about damage caused by exercise as a youngster, obviously there is a sensible ltd. pretty much every single athlete be it dog or human will have trained from a very young age and it is this very exercise that builds the tendons ligaments bone structure etc that builds for a long and healthy working life, without it the risk is much higher imo. The key is progressive overload i.e. Building up steadily in my eyes As for lungs and heart then intense exercise (sensible) from an early age with a healthy diet and suitable rest should do no harm whatsoever, quiet the opposite, unless their is an underlying condition which sadly is not always picked up.

[shaaark 10,140]

 

 

 

 

Got a 10 month old whippet greyhound dog here aint put a foot wrong working wise catching rabbits with ease live to hand on the lamp but first couple of runs he lets out a moan not yapping just excited do u think it will stop or get worse i ran 6 other night caught 5 any advice thank you

Too mutch too soon I would hold back till September/October then very steady with the odd run plus hope fully you have not damaged the dogs heart or lungs or anything else as regards a young developing pup.

What would he have damaged his heart or lungs or am I missing something here?

Heart or lungs 'or anything else'. The anything else will be injuries, however slight, to tendons, ligaments etc, in toes, shoulders, hips, down the spine, things like that, which many pups ran too young or developed enough will pick up and niggle them throughout their lives. Not saying it happens every time, but you'd be surprised how often and how easily it can happen

Again it's a balancing act with sensible exercise, b I never quiet get the science behind the argument about damage caused by exercise as a youngster, obviously there is a sensible ltd. pretty much every single athlete be it dog or human will have trained from a very young age and it is this very exercise that builds the tendons ligaments bone structure etc that builds for a long and healthy working life, without it the risk is much higher imo. The key is progressive overload i.e. Building up steadily in my eyes As for lungs and heart then intense exercise (sensible) from an early age with a healthy diet and suitable rest should do no harm whatsoever, quiet the opposite, unless their is an underlying condition which sadly is not always picked up.

 

I agree with what you say, and not having a dig. And like you've just said, 'underlying condition which sadly is not picked up'. Rabbits on most ground are certainly far from easy for a 'soft' still growing sapling, and jinking about the way they do, often over some pretty rough ground, won't do your growing pup's anatomy any favours. I agree with the sensible workload you've mentioned for heart and lungs though.

Anyway, chuck another pic up of your dog, nice type him

[billhardy 2,341]

Yas can try and advice some Till ya blue in the face and it don't sink in,I would not be worried about the anatomy it's the mental aspect ,why would one ruin a good prospect that has the ability ta miss very few high ratio ta run ,what in all likely ta happen his later on when he gets hard runs he will open up shame when only a little common sense needed atb bunnys

[rabbitpoacher 20]

I thought to be honest this site was helpfull to ask a few questions without being judged i give him a couple of runs now and again and thought ill get some advice from here ive had dogs all my life im 30 year old so im not new to it ive got two other lurchers what are working to a high standard for me anyway but its the first one ive had to do this no matter how experienced u are we all come stuck and need advice from time to time and all the advice is very much appreciated thankyou everyone ill take it on board i just wonderd weather holding him back will increase the excitement thanks again