ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) The real fake news is the MSM, they've been caught lying too many times to get away with it anymore. There are much better sources to read Is there such a thing as "real fake" news?! While I agree that we shouldn't necessarily believe everything we read/view, I don't believe that it's all horseshit either. Ironically the only people that have been caught outright lying is Trump's Press Secretary and Advisor. It's up to the viewer to check the validity of what's being said, and disseminate the truth accordingly. We know Fox News has a political agenda. We know that CNN has a political agenda. We know that the BBC, Sky, etc, etc, ad nauseum, have a political agenda. It doesn't mean that they're outright lying, but it does mean that they'll be selective of what they report and the bias they'll attach to it. As we've concluded before, on this forum, the truth doesn't really matter providing it fits the narrative. With that kind of conclusion there is no such thing as fake news, it's all just political propaganda. If it tickles your warm spots you'll believe it and repeat it regardless of factual content. Edited February 7, 2017 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 It depends on what you want to know about, I generally use the regular MSM as a starting point to see what they're talking about and then research properly if I'm interested. What do you think Trump and Sean Spicer have lied about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 The BBC lied about the Ukraine crisis, I proved that and it was embarrassing what they were saying at the time. The good thing (if there is such a thing) about wars is there is lots of footage to see on Liveleak, it's hard to ignore hundreds of destroyed tanks for example. The BBC for 6+ months had stories saying the Ukrainian army was taking Donbas when the reality was they were getting mauled, yes it was propaganda but also out and out lies. If they lie then it just destroys the faith of the reader. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 It depends on what you want to know about, I generally use the regular MSM as a starting point to see what they're talking about and then research properly if I'm interested. What do you think Trump and Sean Spicer have lied about? I tend to agree with that but if it was all fake news then you wouldn't even start there. It's a sliding scale of bias... Spicer lied about the inauguration crowds. Conway lied about the Bowling Green Massacre. Trump lied about terrorist attacks in Europe being so commonplace that they're not reported. It's not what I think they lied about. They did it and got hauled in for it. Again if it fits the narrative it's truth but if it's doesn't it's fake news. Lets call it for what it is... Propaganda. The BBC lied about the Ukraine crisis, I proved that and it was embarrassing what they were saying at the time. The good thing (if there is such a thing) about wars is there is lots of footage to see on Liveleak, it's hard to ignore hundreds of destroyed tanks for example. The BBC for 6+ months had stories saying the Ukrainian army was taking Donbas when the reality was they were getting mauled, yes it was propaganda but also out and out lies. If they lie then it just destroys the faith of the reader. I'm not going to sit here and defend the BBC. They have an agenda to. The point is to expose the lie and the liar so that the reader can adjust their own bias confirmation, or not. That is their choice. If Trump's press people are going to lie about stupid things, 3 weeks in, what are they going to do with the big things? My concern is the truth. As we're no longer interested in it which propaganda is the most reliable? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,160 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Most people are too stupid to think beyond a headline mate, sad but true. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Most people are too stupid to think beyond a headline mate, sad but true. Isn't that just the truth. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,755 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) Fake news is a myth imo Edited February 7, 2017 by kanny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Most people are too stupid to think beyond a headline mate, sad but true. Most people don't read beyond the headlines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Most people are too stupid to think beyond a headline mate, sad but true. Most people don't read beyond the headlines So we're left with too stupid, and too lazy... The future's bright, but the future's orange! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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lanesra 4,007 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 When people see the bankers , most politicians , actors & musicians ect all hating Trump / Brexit it just confirms too me there might be something with these 2 that May for once benefit the "normal" person (you & me) and if not what have we too lose . . I know 1 thing for certain what has been brushed right under the carpet here by politicians in the highest office , police commanders & social services would NOT of been brushed under any carpet on Trumps watch in that I'm talking Rapes of White children on a massive scale , Muslims abusing our Troops & there families & the memory of war Hero's from the past being ridiculed !! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 When people see the bankers , most politicians , actors & musicians ect all hating Trump / Brexit it just confirms too me there might be something with these 2 that May for once benefit the "normal" person (you & me) and if not what have we too lose . . I know 1 thing for certain what has been brushed right under the carpet here by politicians in the highest office , police commanders & social services would NOT of been brushed under any carpet on Trumps watch in that I'm talking Rapes of White children on a massive scale , Muslims abusing our Troops & there families & the memory of war Hero's from the past being ridiculed !! Totally agree...there have been many times I wondered if Trump was just another fake like Bliar and Obama but he is doing everything he said he would and the media still hate him which is good as far as I am concerned....if the MSM suddenly got on board I'd be highly suspicious. So far Trump is awesome 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Silversnake 1,099 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 When people see the bankers , most politicians , actors & musicians ect all hating Trump / Brexit it just confirms too me there might be something with these 2 that May for once benefit the "normal" person (you & me) and if not what have we too lose . . I know 1 thing for certain what has been brushed right under the carpet here by politicians in the highest office , police commanders & social services would NOT of been brushed under any carpet on Trumps watch in that I'm talking Rapes of White children on a massive scale , Muslims abusing our Troops & there families & the memory of war Hero's from the past being ridiculed !! Totally agree...there have been many times I wondered if Trump was just another fake like Bliar and Obama but he is doing everything he said he would and the media still hate him which is good as far as I am concerned....if the MSM suddenly got on board I'd be highly suspicious. So far Trump is awesome My thoughts exactly, I certainly have some doubts still about Trump but so far he has done things far better than I expected him to. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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