Calling Off Scent

[Wellieburn Wilson 33]

What's the best way to call off a scent or work closer to me, AV got a young dog here 13 month and sometimes if he gets a the scent off something in the woods or afew feilds away he's off which can be a pain if he hunts them up and gets a chase where am not really meant to be or near houses/cottages.

[Shaddy93 840]

It's a tough one I made the mistake of getting a youngster going in the day before the lamp and I found compared to other dogs his recall after every slip was appalling as he was so use to hunting up in the day, I tackled it by every time he eventually came back I didn't acknowledge the dog just got him back on the slip and found another slip as soon as I could after a while he figured as soon as he misses if he came straight back he would get another slip sooner

[ginger beard 4,653]

my dogs have always been spot on lamping and during the day on a mooch recall still excellent but if something has just passed and the smell is strong there off and they run if until they lose it. nothing stops them at that moment.

[Wellieburn Wilson 33]

That's what he's like recall on lamps fine just durin the day on a mooch he's off even if the quarry is not sighted, through cover the lot.

[MIK 4,763]

Same here GB my dogs I would say are trained to a decent standard ...That comes with the more they are out the more they learn comes with experience....I had lads up from Liverpool that has some really heavy bull x they were some of the best I have seen at what they do but we're slow on the lamp and not the best trained ....one of the lads said your dogs come back to you quicker after a slip than mine do running quarry ....it's the same jumping fences mine are over then know to wait till I'm over ...jumping in the back of the truck they are straight in no fukin about and on to the next spot ....but when they have there nose down no are on I can shout and scream all I want it will fall on deaf ears

[Allan P 1,152]

Very difficult to stop a dog from hunting in the day imo. Best way is to look for the signs the dog gives off just as it's starting to pick up a scent and try and distract it as early as you can and get it on a lead A lot easier said than done tbh.

Edited December 10, 2016 by Allan P

[Nobby8126 96]

you have to get the recall/stop nailed before working at night mate. Get them on the whistle, its harder to sort out bad habits than install good ones from start. Repetition, repetition, repetition.

[MIK 4,763]

you have to get the recall/stop nailed before working at night mate. Get them on the whistle, its harder to sort out bad habits than install good ones from start. Repetition, repetition, repetition.

 

I would question my dogs drive if I could call him off when he is on

[Wellieburn Wilson 33]

Just a wee bit more control would be nice he's had success workin a line and workin it for 4 or 5 feilds it's justly don't know who's around with a gun and won't end well of am not there. It's not callin off when he's sighted it's the workin a line miles away that's a bugger.

[Nobby8126 96]

 

you have to get the recall/stop nailed before working at night mate. Get them on the whistle, its harder to sort out bad habits than install good ones from start. Repetition, repetition, repetition.

I would question my dogs drive if I could call him off when he is on

 

Different ball game I know but I have no issues with my spanners drive and commitment but can stop them on a sixpence (one of them any way the other is a homo). You suppress prey drive when introducing to ferrets but they continue to work well. My opinion is only based on my limited work with gundogs but premise should be the same, in saying that when I had ex racers and they got a whiff of something I had no hope of getting them back. I guarantee as soon I start with lamping my opinion will change pmsl

 

[Allan P 1,152]

If the dogs self rewarded it will be difficult to stop.You may just have to go along with it.

Edited December 10, 2016 by Allan P

[MIK 4,763]

 

 

you have to get the recall/stop nailed before working at night mate. Get them on the whistle, its harder to sort out bad habits than install good ones from start. Repetition, repetition, repetition.

 

I would question my dogs drive if I could call him off when he is on

 

Different ball game I know but I have no issues with my spanners drive and commitment but can stop them on a sixpence (one of them any way the other is a homo). You suppress prey drive when introducing to ferrets but they continue to work well. My opinion is only based on my limited work with gundogs but premise should be the same, in saying that when I had ex racers and they got a whiff of something I had no hope of getting them back. I guarantee as soon I start with lamping my opinion will change pmsl

I also work gundogs and have a GWP that will have more drive than any spaniel or lab I have seen and can also stop him but lurxhers a different story

[Wellieburn Wilson 33]

Haha if a go along with it al have to take up hill running, keep is fit mind.

[bird 10,014]

 

you have to get the recall/stop nailed before working at night mate. Get them on the whistle, its harder to sort out bad habits than install good ones from start. Repetition, repetition, repetition.

I would question my dogs drive if I could call him off when he is on

 

true, couple years ago walking in the day , i saw heard fallow just start move from a wood , my 2 dogs shot after them, called and called, but went on deaf ears .lol Bryn came back after 8-10 mins , Buck was gone feckin1hour . yeh call him of quarry hahaha no chance !

[terryd 8,922]

I doubt you will ever be able to call off a scent and don't both trying if you know its not going to work.

As for the range thing either get the dog walking at heel full time unless you say other wise. I never managed that lol or teach a reliable stop which is pretty easy it seems then you can stop the dog if it gets to far ahead and gives you control at range.

I know what you are saying though if I am with in a couple of fields of a main roads I am extra careful and stick a lead on if there's any doubt as if he hits a scent he will cover that in seconds.

Its takes time as well years it seems as you get used to each other. Mine is three in March and only just recently on the lamp he comes straight back at a gallop if he misses

So if I was you teach a good stop command

Edited December 10, 2016 by terryd