Lurcher Crosses

[Greyman 31,080]

 

I,m not trying to be cantacorous, but I find it quite funny on here reading all the story,s regarding, this cross and that cross, IE I,ve got a bull,saluki whippet crossed with Billy's collie greyhound deerhound etc etc, when really lurchers are just mongrels and unless you are crossing from pedigree breeds you don't really know what percentage of what is in the mix, I have never cared about what was in the mix of my dogs as much as what size it will be or is it smooth or rough etc because these things matter because of the land I hunt over and the style of my hunting, so why are people so obsessed with certain crosses when in truth you are just taking the word of the vendor who could tell you anything, I have a collie cross, purely for the fact he,s predominantly white with a black face and saddle, and everyone I meet comes running over to tell me he,s a Hancock dog, (he,s not) I can clearly see he has a lot of collie in his make up but other than that I don't have a scooby about him other than he,s 24 tts and rough coated, we mostly work small fields with lots of hedge cover for which his size and coat are perfect, so why are so many people nowadays obsessed with certain crosses ? I,m just curious as it was never really an issue when I started almost 35 year ago, if I had a good un the right size and coat, I put it across someone else's good un of the right size and coat and we normally got what we wanted from it, ???

How do you know yours isn't a Hancock? Did the vendor tell you it wasn't? Lol

know tattoo in his ear he was a freebie with know real history

[Sirblessed 2,511]

Oh goody a lucky dip...

[roybo 2,873]

Some know the history of their dogs breeding back 30 years or more ,or know it's ,for instance, bull grey x Saluki grey ,so if asked or if they put a thread up they usually say that ,nothing strange about that.

As that dog would be totally different in looks and temperament to say a 1/2 collie grey x with a bedlington whippet so

I'd like to know what's in there .

[straight2hand 304]

I get what your roughly meaning, One of the best dogs I have had - I didn't even know what he actually was but he had deer hound in him for sure but I am not sure what else???? It looked like a nice dog and ended up being a cracker. Genetics throws a few curve balls as we all know but for me all the time and commitment we put into our lurchers - you have to go on the highest percentage for success in what you want achieve and leave the least possibility to just plain plain pot luck. If your into hares in a big way surely your going to look at a saluki cross predominately even if there is something else in there because they are tried and tested and well known to be best suited to that quarry. There are always exceptions to everything because of genetics and I suppose that's all part of the beauty of the lurcher world - you never know what your going to get! But at least if you choose a cross that in most cases carry the attributes you require, there is a good chance the dog will do what you want it too.

[Greyman 31,080]

I get what your roughly meaning, One of the best dogs I have had - I didn't even know what he actually was but he had deer hound in him for sure but I am not sure what else???? It looked like a nice dog and ended up being a cracker. Genetics throws a few curve balls as we all know but for me all the time and commitment we put into our lurchers - you have to go on the highest percentage for success in what you want achieve and leave the least possibility to just plain plain pot luck. If your into hares in a big way surely your going to look at a saluki cross predominately even if there is something else in there because they are tried and tested and well known to be best suited to that quarry. There are always exceptions to everything because of genetics and I suppose that's all part of the beauty of the lurcher world - you never know what your going to get! But at least if you choose a cross that in most cases carry the attributes you require, there is a good chance the dog will do what you want it too.

 

this is what I,m trying to say, I know that thirty year ago people sold dogs in exchange and mart and told the vendors they were deerhound greyhound X,s or collie crosses, etc but it was a generalisation, most lurchers were sold at shows from the backs of cars and vans, for a twenty, Hancock was probably the first to actually guarantee what was in the make up, most other vendors were selling lurcher to lurcher bred dogs, if you were buying a deerhound X you were hoping for a dog around 27"tts with a rough coat and generally grey in colour, but I also saw loads that never grew up to look like the dog they were sold as, I know we all want a certain type of dog, but there seems to be an obsession today to describe every percentage of every breed in the make up when in truth it's usually bollacks and just what people told the buyer, I would rather see two good working parents of the right shape and size, than just buy an unknown pup because it's described as a cross of ten different dogs at certain percentages, maybe I worded my op wrong but thats the point I was trying to make, if your dogs the right shape and size for the land you work over, and does what you require of it, does it really matter that you can't identify every percentage of every breed in its make up? And is the next step in the process, pedigree lurchers? I hope not

[Greyman 31,080]

Biggest lot a shite i read on here in yonks, get a grip

nice input, you certainly sorted that out with your vast knowledge, I bet you got a 1/16 bull X 4/16 grey X 1/8 collie X 4/16 saluki x4/16 whippet X1/16 pointer out of Willies patch crossed with Daves whippet have,nt you

[Greyman 31,080]

Oh goody a lucky dip...

I,m quite happy to call him a collie X, what would you say, but in truth I have,nt a clue and don't care,

[johnny boy68 11,726]

 

Oh goody a lucky dip...

I,m quite happy to call him a collie X, what would you say, but in truth I have,nt a clue and don't care,

Wouldn't it just be a lurcher?

[Greyman 31,080]

 

 

Oh goody a lucky dip...

I,m quite happy to call him a collie X, what would you say, but in truth I have,nt a clue and don't care,

Wouldn't it just be a lurcher?

yes exactly and a lurcher is a mongrel, I,m just a bit curious why some folk seem more interested in the make up of there dog rather than what it does, that's all, I,ve had terriers and runners for over thirty years but only had the Internet for under one year, so I,m seeing a lot of things that are new to me, I,m not trying to be awkward,I,m just curious, but I seem to have touched a bit of a nerve with some folk

[nothernlite 18,247]

Everyone's different mate you will get use to the Internet takes time but can be fun and good for learning things nice dog you have pal use to use one simaler years ago and had Fox terrier in it good luck

[Greyman 31,080]

Biggest lot a shite i read on here in yonks, get a grip

nice input, you certainly sorted that out with your vast knowledge, I bet you got a 1/16 bull X 4/16 grey X 1/8 collie X 4/16 saluki x4/16 whippet X1/16 pointer out of Willies patch crossed with Daves whippet have,nt you

 

I know id be wasting me breath tryin to educate you, so i wont bother. But do yourself a favour and dont bet anymore as your knowledge on lurchers is as bad your bets[/quote) my next bet is, I was out there doing it for real when you were still shitting yellow, so yes you would be wasting your time educating me, but thanks anyway, I only asked a simple question, if you can answer great, if not I don't really need a cyber row, so I,ll leave it there thanks

[johnny boy68 11,726]

 

 

 

Oh goody a lucky dip...

I,m quite happy to call him a collie X, what would you say, but in truth I have,nt a clue and don't care,

Wouldn't it just be a lurcher?

yes exactly and a lurcher is a mongrel, I,m just a bit curious why some folk seem more interested in the make up of there dog rather than what it does, that's all, I,ve had terriers and runners for over thirty years but only had the Internet for under one year, so I,m seeing a lot of things that are new to me, I,m not trying to be awkward,I,m just curious, but I seem to have touched a bit of a nerve with some folk

Welcome to the Internet it's a strange place, don't take it too serious and it can be fun, this place can be frustrating at the best of times lol.

Not too hung up on percentages myself but it's always nice to know what's in the mix.