Can A Hw 100 In .22

[bigmac 97kt 13,828]

The 100 will reach 65 yards and more the problem is the person behind the 100 is he or she confident enough to achieve such a shot cleanly and kill the say,d rabbit with one shot ?

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[VWman 232]

 

 

 

 

Was this a serious question VW?

Was what a serious question, does the 177 shoot further than the 22 hw 100.

What I am picking up from the 4.5 shooters is that they will shoot the 22 out of the park which is just making me think of a tunes 97k and settle for that and btw I have never seen any posts on here about 97's having any drops in power or other problems. I am not sure about the 100 so I think I will pass for now. May be i need to see them in action.

Someone said that if you want to shoot 65 yards to get a rimfire well if a 100 will not do that then i may as well keep my springers.

The actual question was can it take rabbits at the same distance. Yes.

 

If you do want to shoot at 65 yards, get a rimmie. Yes.

 

Keep your springers.

 

Rez if the 100 can't make 65 yards whats the point in getting one and what would be the point in shooting a rimfire 65 yards unless you have a back stop.

And yes I will be keeping my springers and also getting some more to go with them. I thought the 100 was supposed to be a super tool and could reach out past the springers. I am not saying that 65 yards would be an every day shot but it would be nice to think I could pull off a good shot at that distance as you have to have things to reach for to improve my shooting.

 

What the hell you are on ,it baffles me

 

Don't know what you mean villa man ?

[villaman 9,982]

What i mean is what do want out of a HW100 or any PCP , if you would like more go for FAC , HW100 is no magical gun you know , all though we build them to be!!!

[bigmac 97kt 13,828]

Question,,,can a 100 shoot out to 65 yards or more

 

answer.....YES with ease

 

Question.....is 177 better than 22

 

answer.........no in my personal opinion there as good as each other

 

 

Question....can they kill at say,d distance

 

answer.......YES BUT

 

 

CAN YOU, THAT IS THE QUESTION :tongue2:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[VWman 232]

Question,,,can a 100 shoot out to 65 yards or more

 

answer.....YES with ease

 

Question.....is 177 better than 22

 

answer.........no in my personal opinion there as good as each other

 

 

Question....can they kill at say,d distance

 

answer.......YES BUT

 

 

CAN YOU, THAT IS THE QUESTION :tongue2:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

That is very well put mac

and that is all the information I could want out of a reply.

You also make a very good point about clean kills. All I was looking for was the potential to be there in the rifle.

And no I can't do long range kills at the moment but I am building up my distance and it will only come with practice.

We all have to start somewhere.

[bigmac 97kt 13,828]

 

Question,,,can a 100 shoot out to 65 yards or more

 

answer.....YES with ease

 

Question.....is 177 better than 22

 

answer.........no in my personal opinion there as good as each other

 

 

Question....can they kill at say,d distance

 

answer.......YES BUT

 

 

CAN YOU, THAT IS THE QUESTION :tongue2:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

That is very well put mac

and that is all the information I could want out of a reply.

You also make a very good point about clean kills. All I was looking for was the potential to be there in the rifle.

And no I can't do long range kills at the moment but I am building up my distance and it will only come with practice.

We all have to start somewhere.

 

Its not all about long kills

 

get to no your pray and field craft

 

getting close to your pray is one of the hardest things to learn and even harder to get good at

 

storking is a skill that only comes good with practice lots of it

 

Its not just about being quiet its about processing the land on your way to the pray and seeing in advance where your going to put your feet and all of this you have to proses in seconds but there is a lot more to it than that

 

We can all take long shots, but getting to within range of your zero distance is some thing else

 

its an achievement that only comes with skill and practice

 

iv seen them at 100 yards or more and iv got to with in a few feet of them and sat down and watched them

 

give it a go and see how close you can get

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[VWman 232]

 

 

Question,,,can a 100 shoot out to 65 yards or more

 

answer.....YES with ease

 

Question.....is 177 better than 22

 

answer.........no in my personal opinion there as good as each other

 

 

Question....can they kill at say,d distance

 

answer.......YES BUT

 

 

CAN YOU, THAT IS THE QUESTION :tongue2:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

That is very well put mac

and that is all the information I could want out of a reply.

You also make a very good point about clean kills. All I was looking for was the potential to be there in the rifle.

And no I can't do long range kills at the moment but I am building up my distance and it will only come with practice.

We all have to start somewhere.

 

Its not all about long kills

 

get to no your pray and field craft

 

getting close to your pray is one of the hardest things to learn and even harder to get good at

 

storking is a skill that only comes good with practice lots of it

 

Its not just about being quiet its about processing the land on your way to the pray and seeing in advance where your going to put your feet and all of this you have to proses in seconds but there is a lot more to it than that

 

We can all take long shots, but getting to within range of your zero distance is some thing else

 

its an achievement that only comes with skill and practice

 

iv seen them at 100 yards or more and iv got to with in a few feet of them and sat down and watched them

 

give it a go and see how close you can get

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

 

That sounds fair enough to me, I take your point.

[charlie caller 3,654]

Ok I have been shooting air rifles for near on 35 years, I have seen it all (nearly) in my humble opinion, a .177 calibre accurate rifle,is nearly as good as a .22 rf, and yes I do own both, my personal limit is 40 yards with an air rifle, the advantage an air rifle has over a .22rf is shooting at an elavated position, IE trees, % of the time I will reach for the air rifle over the .22rf, what does that say about modern air rifles,

[Rez 4,961]

 

 

Question,,,can a 100 shoot out to 65 yards or more

 

answer.....YES with ease

 

Question.....is 177 better than 22

 

answer.........no in my personal opinion there as good as each other

 

 

Question....can they kill at say,d distance

 

answer.......YES BUT

 

 

CAN YOU, THAT IS THE QUESTION :tongue2:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

 

That is very well put mac

and that is all the information I could want out of a reply.

You also make a very good point about clean kills. All I was looking for was the potential to be there in the rifle.

And no I can't do long range kills at the moment but I am building up my distance and it will only come with practice.

We all have to start somewhere.

Its not all about long kills

 

get to no your pray and field craft

 

getting close to your pray is one of the hardest things to learn and even harder to get good at

 

storking is a skill that only comes good with practice lots of it

 

Its not just about being quiet its about processing the land on your way to the pray and seeing in advance where your going to put your feet and all of this you have to proses in seconds but there is a lot more to it than that

 

We can all take long shots, but getting to within range of your zero distance is some thing else

 

its an achievement that only comes with skill and practice

 

iv seen them at 100 yards or more and iv got to with in a few feet of them and sat down and watched them

 

give it a go and see how close you can get

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

"Storking"

[mark williams 7,568]

Very well put TT,

If i resorted to taking a 65 yard shot (i would not mind you ) i would haul myself back to fieldcraft school.

I try my best at all times to limit distance/ range with all the little tricks we learn over the years and take great pride if i can get myself within 30 yds.

Mac`s post was bang on the money with this reasoning .

When an air gun hunter knows his field craft, the air rifle becomes one very effective piece of equipment regardless of calibre "in open areas".

In woodland my preferred caliber is .177 (as you know)

I took my new .177 cal T Rex out on wood pigeon, hide shooting a few days back and one of the shots was on a large corvid ranged at 46 yds, i gave half a milldot hold over and a full milldot to the left windage.

I detest hold over or windage allowance in any caliber if branches are about but i could see a wide and clear route for an engine room shot. The 8.4 grain AA field absolutely "slammed home" and the large corvid crumpled instantly.

That 46 yd shot was the longest shot i`ve taken in the best part of a year, as close to 30 yds is much more my desired range.

My advice would be "don`t try to build on distance shooting" but rather " build on shortening it"

 

atb

Edited July 26, 2015 by mark williams

[VWman 232]

This thread has opened my eyes to 4 things, the FIRST thing is that a new guy can be taken in by all the hype about PCP super rifles. The SECOND thing is that new guys like me need to get a range finder to get to grips with visual distance prospective. The THIRD thing is that you guys care about responsible shooting, which is by the way why I am trying to get good at short range and am working my way from the barns to the top fields. And the FORTH thing for me is that the springers that I have are better than I am at the moment so I should put the time in until I have out grown them or need the next level.

PS I have upset a couple of people but I have learned more from this thread than I would In 6 months in the field and this should limit my mistakes out there and I bet all have made a few on there learning curve.

cheers.

Edited July 26, 2015 by VWman

[bigmac 97kt 13,828]

This thread has opened my eyes to 4 things, the FIRST thing is that a new guy can be taken in by all the hype about PCP super rifles. The SECOND thing is that new guys like me need to get a range finder to get to grips with visual distance prospective. The THIRD thing is that you guys care about responsible shooting, which is by the way why I am trying to get good at short range and am working my way from the barns to the top fields. And the FORTH thing for me is that the springers that I have are better than I am at the moment so I should put the time in until I have out grown them or need the next level.

PS I have upset a couple of people but I have learned more from this thread than I would In 6 months in the field and this should limit my mistakes out there and I bet all have made a few on there learning curve.

cheers.

You will never out grow your springer mate

 

they have a habit of biting you back every now and then just to let you no who is boss

 

and you can never up set any one on here were to thick skin,d lol

 

like you have say,d get to no your springers and then move to the pcp side and you will be amazed at how good the pcp is and every thing you would of learned with the springer will come good when using a pcp

 

Your a new lad just starting off but your asking all the right questions and the lads will help you all you have to do is take the advice and put it to use

 

at least your thanking every one as some new lads ask and dont even reply at all and that go,s a long way in my book

 

O and make sure your skin thickens as you will get some shit off us but its only banter unless you do some thing wrong lol

 

happy hunting and stay safe

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[bigmac 97kt 13,828]

 

This thread has opened my eyes to 4 things, the FIRST thing is that a new guy can be taken in by all the hype about PCP super rifles. The SECOND thing is that new guys like me need to get a range finder to get to grips with visual distance prospective. The THIRD thing is that you guys care about responsible shooting, which is by the way why I am trying to get good at short range and am working my way from the barns to the top fields. And the FORTH thing for me is that the springers that I have are better than I am at the moment so I should put the time in until I have out grown them or need the next level.

PS I have upset a couple of people but I have learned more from this thread than I would In 6 months in the field and this should limit my mistakes out there and I bet all have made a few on there learning curve.

cheers.

You will never out grow your springer mate

 

they have a habit of biting you back every now and then just to let you no who is boss

 

and you can never up set any one on here were to thick skin,d lol

 

like you have say,d get to no your springers and then move to the pcp side and you will be amazed at how good the pcp is and every thing you would of learned with the springer will come good when using a pcp

 

Your a new lad just starting off but your asking all the right questions and the lads will help you all you have to do is take the advice and put it to use

 

at least your thanking every one as some new lads ask and dont even reply at all and that go,s a long way in my book

 

O and make sure your skin thickens as you will get some shit off us but its only banter unless you do some thing wrong lol

 

happy hunting and stay safe

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

 

I should no i still get it now

 

Timmy you can stick you knitting where the sun dont shine no more :tongue2:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[bigmac 97kt 13,828]

 

 

 

Question,,,can a 100 shoot out to 65 yards or more

 

answer.....YES with ease

 

Question.....is 177 better than 22

 

answer.........no in my personal opinion there as good as each other

 

 

Question....can they kill at say,d distance

 

answer.......YES BUT

 

 

CAN YOU, THAT IS THE QUESTION :tongue2:

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

That is very well put mac

and that is all the information I could want out of a reply.

You also make a very good point about clean kills. All I was looking for was the potential to be there in the rifle.

And no I can't do long range kills at the moment but I am building up my distance and it will only come with practice.

We all have to start somewhere.

Its not all about long kills

 

get to no your pray and field craft

 

getting close to your pray is one of the hardest things to learn and even harder to get good at

 

storking is a skill that only comes good with practice lots of it

 

Its not just about being quiet its about processing the land on your way to the pray and seeing in advance where your going to put your feet and all of this you have to proses in seconds but there is a lot more to it than that

 

We can all take long shots, but getting to within range of your zero distance is some thing else

 

its an achievement that only comes with skill and practice

 

iv seen them at 100 yards or more and iv got to with in a few feet of them and sat down and watched them

 

give it a go and see how close you can get

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

"Storking"

 

Feck off

 

not all of us just sit and wait

 

 

 

TWAT double TWAT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

atvbmac

[mark williams 7,568]

Interesting stuff this is .

Yep i`ve just spent over two years knocking the vermin for six on my permissions with the HW 100 kt .177.

The lads on here were/ are getting a little fed up with the praise i was /am giving this gun .

One thing stuck though,- "was i becoming a poor shot " for dropping springers, was suggested to me on and off, of here ?

I bought the TX 200 springer (in .177) set her up and took her out as a back up rifle to my 100`s.

I am having a shooting man`s love affair with this rifle and am giving it first nod on hunting trips at the moment as i am keeping on par with the 100`s with it. So i would agree .177 first choice pcp or springer

Glad i didn`t forget how to shoot springers in any way, shape or form by the way (phew).

 

atb

Edited July 26, 2015 by mark williams