Country Joe 1,411 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ive sourced raw Chicken breasts im feeding a pound, plus two handfuls of complete, 5mls ultimate oil, and one level teaspoon Keepers mix. No fat on the chicken so should i add a small piece of lard? And my Greyhound Owner mate was talking to one of the Countries top trainers who told him, if feeding Chicken, you must add vitamin E, anyone heard of this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 yes to the first and no to the second. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,626 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 is that a bit of lard sandy?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Cheers Sandy, yes Lard, pure beef fat, and its cheap. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robin hood 109 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Why add the keepers mix if your feeding complete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Why add the keepers mix if your feeding complete Cause I won a large tub in a Countrymans Weekly competition. Edited October 23, 2014 by Country Joe 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 agree with sandy. but consider some extra calcium if you are not feeding bone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ive sourced raw Chicken breasts im feeding a pound, plus two handfuls of complete, 5mls ultimate oil, and one level teaspoon Keepers mix. No fat on the chicken so should i add a small piece of lard? And my Greyhound Owner mate was talking to one of the Countries top trainers who told him, if feeding Chicken, you must add vitamin E, anyone heard of this? Out of interest what weight are the dogs? I always add a bit of lard this time of year unless feeding very fatty meat. My pup is eating like a machine at the moment since I've upped her workload. She's been eating 3-4 lb of meat per sitting plus pasta and veg on top and she is only about 40lb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 40 lbs, he too is eating well so ive upped to three handfuls of 20% complete, he also gets veg. In the morning, he has porridge made with milk and a teaspoon of honey. don't know the reason why, but seemingly there are a few top Greyhound trainers giving vit E when feeding chicken. Including this years Derby winner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 vit E is often given to try to calm an excitable dog, tried it with one of mine, made no difference what so ever, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 It is one of those traditional ideas; I used to give vitamin E to the greys when I raced them 30 years ago. The idea was it helped the muscles/energy metabolism. at the time we chucked vitamins at em by the bucket full lol. Many still do but there is little evidence it helps and when they carried out a study to compared racing greys that received vit E and C those that that didn't the didn't did better. There are two possibilities to account for this one, it leads to increased water retention and so weight gain or two, it slows muscle repair so leads to slight de conditioning. So if dogs do well with lots of supplements it's likely it's in spite of rather than because of them. Supplements don't make up for a good diet and dogs fed a good diet don't need supplement. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Country Joe 1,411 Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 agree with sandy. but consider some extra calcium if you are not feeding bone Would this be a good idea? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 i was looking for the vit e stuff and found this, http://www.petfoodindustry.com/uploadedFiles/PetfoodIndustry/Articles/Wakshlag-Nutrition%20and%20the%20working%20canine.pdf it has the refs but is interesting in its own right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Cheers Sandy, yes Lard, pure beef fat, and its cheap. Lard is pig fat, dripping is beef fat. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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