DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 When out shooting, what position do you leave the bolt in, say when you put the rifle down in the truck to pick up the lamp or between shots. Having been out with two different shooters recently I noticed one took a shot and left the spent case in the chamber with the bolt closed and safety on, the other would take a shot then pull the bolt out leaving it open.... After being around someone who pulls the bolt out and leaves it open (which obviously visible), it felt a bit uncomfortable being in the truck with someone who leaves the spent case in the chamber with the bolt closed and safety on. Obviously this if very safe, but if say you went to take a shot and didn't for whatever reason, you are used to looking at your rifle with the bolt closed, then no alarm bells would ring... You could also chamber a live round and use the safety.... I hope this makes sense.... What do you do? Cheers Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Whilst on foot I leave the bolt open on the .22-250 as I dont like the safety. The .22 is always loaded with safety on and obviously finger off trigger. Shotgun barrels always open When in vehicle I leave bolt open on all rifles and barrels broke on shotgun Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have used both methods, bolt out, or live round in and safety on. I always find myself checking and double checking and triple checking the safety. I quite often test the safety as well just to be sure it all works as it should. I do close the shotgun in the hide and use the safety, with the barrels pointing up and away at all times unless I have to put it down then I break it. Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Loaded and with the safety catch on but with the Rifle or Shotgun always pointing in a safe place unless they aren't in immediate use, in which case it's unloaded with the safety catch on. 1 Quote Link to post
celticrusader 78 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) When around other people to put they're minds at easy shotguns are broken but rifles are normally loaded and safety catch on as well as shoulder slung, in the truck whilst driving round a perm I keep it loaded safety on....my thumb is normally pulling the safety catch into place constantly whatever I'm using...obviously finger nowhere near the trigger. Let me note also..this is on private property and if so and when finished I do reload completely and when approaching gates or styes. Edited September 4, 2014 by celticrusader Quote Link to post
Bigad 136 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Normally open for me or removed when putting it down in a car Quote Link to post
Rowan 308 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 in a vehicle , take the bolt right out , takes seconds, so does an accident. Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 in a vehicle , take the bolt right out , takes seconds, so does an accident. So driving around a permission, say shooting rabbits with a .22lr, you would completely remove the bolt between every shot? With my cz452 I have to pull the trigger to slide the bolt back in, and with a loaded mag that sounds f**king dangerous? Any one else? Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Completely agree. Absolutely no reason to take the bolt completely out imo. Except whilt in the cabinet Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 This removing the Bolt lark when out shooting has me thinking that they aren't confident with the Rifle when using it. Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Sod taking the bolt out between shooting rabbits. Either slide the bolt open or one in chamber with safety on surely? Just that the chap i was with the other day left the spent case in and safety on until next shot, which is obviously safe but a bit more messing about when you need to get on a rabbit quick? Quote Link to post
delswal 3,819 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Sod taking the bolt out between shooting rabbits. Either slide the bolt open or one in chamber with safety on surely? Just that the chap i was with the other day left the spent case in and safety on until next shot, which is obviously safe but a bit more messing about when you need to get on a rabbit quick? What is more important, being safe or getting on to a rabbit quick? leaving a spent case in the chamber will not slow you down any, how long would it take you to flick the safety off a cz 452 and cycle the bolt ? all of 3-4 seconds ……..stay safe, theres always another rabbit another night. Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Sod taking the bolt out between shooting rabbits. Either slide the bolt open or one in chamber with safety on surely? Just that the chap i was with the other day left the spent case in and safety on until next shot, which is obviously safe but a bit more messing about when you need to get on a rabbit quick? What is more important, being safe or getting on to a rabbit quick? leaving a spent case in the chamber will not slow you down any, how long would it take you to flick the safety off a cz 452 and cycle the bolt ? all of 3-4 seconds ……..stay safe, theres always another rabbit another night. Getting the Rabbit quick! :) Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Sod taking the bolt out between shooting rabbits. Either slide the bolt open or one in chamber with safety on surely? Just that the chap i was with the other day left the spent case in and safety on until next shot, which is obviously safe but a bit more messing about when you need to get on a rabbit quick? What is more important, being safe or getting on to a rabbit quick? leaving a spent case in the chamber will not slow you down any, how long would it take you to flick the safety off a cz 452 and cycle the bolt ? all of 3-4 seconds ……..stay safe, theres always another rabbit another night. Being safe is priority number one! But is a live round in the chamber with the safety on enough? Or do you leave a spent case in with the safety on? It probably would take less than 3/4 seconds to be fair, I quite like the idea. Just trying to find out how others shoot. Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) When out shooting, what position do you leave the bolt in, say when you put the rifle down in the truck to pick up the lamp or between shots. Having been out with two different shooters recently I noticed one took a shot and left the spent case in the chamber with the bolt closed and safety on, the other would take a shot then pull the bolt out leaving it open.... After being around someone who pulls the bolt out and leaves it open (which obviously visible), it felt a bit uncomfortable being in the truck with someone who leaves the spent case in the chamber with the bolt closed and safety on. Obviously this if very safe, but if say you went to take a shot and didn't for whatever reason, you are used to looking at your rifle with the bolt closed, then no alarm bells would ring... You could also chamber a live round and use the safety.... I hope this makes sense.... What do you do? Cheers Walking around if rough shooting, I'd leave the spent case in and safety on. Simply to prevent debris getting in the chamber from eg bushes. In open ground from eg one position, bolt open. In a vehicle or if putting the rifle on the ground for a second or two, I'd leave the bolt open. When transporting, to or from shoots, it makes good sense to remove the bolt and store it separately eg on your person. That way the gun is always safe and if in any way should become "lost" eg you nip in a shop and someone steals the car with the gun hidden in the boot, it isn't fireable. I also don't know if it's ever been tested in Court, or what the Shooting Oranisations views are on this, but if potentially you forgot to remove the magazine and therefore had the gun "loaded", there might be some argument to say it wasn't loaded if there wasn't a bolt attached as the gun could not be cocked or the round chambered. Would it hold up as a defence? I really don't know and wouldn't like to be testing it as a theory! But it doesn't hurt to be as safe as possible and no bolt means unusable when transporting = no accidents and lower risk if stolen. Edited September 6, 2014 by Alsone 1 Quote Link to post
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