What's Your Opinion On The 00 Remington Buckshot ?

[fox assasin 16]

Hi all, what's your personal opinions on the 00 Remington buckshot cartridge for foxes ? What's the killing range like with them ? How do they perform as a foxing cartridge for further distances ? Any info would be great !

 

Cheers, atb

[celticrusader 78]

Double ought buck as the yanks say is a real show stopper apparently, have no experience but I dont know to what design you have for this cartridge.

[Alsone 789]

Too large except for close range use against something fox sized.

 

Try no: 1's or BB's instead.

 

With a shotgun it's the shock that kills and at any kind of range the low number of shot in the cartridge will mean massive holes in the pattern with a real chance of only hitting the fox with a single shot and probably not in a vital area at that = wounding.

 

You're much better off therefore with smaller shot because that way you impart more energy overall (lots of small hits add up to more than 1 single hit - a single large pellet with say 12 ft lbs is less than 30 hits with small pellets each with say 2 ftlbs (60ft lbs overall)) plus at least some of those hits will be on nerves and vital areas thereby increasing the shocking effect / damage.

 

My advice would be go for a heavy load in 1's or BB's therefore. 3's are OK as well but certainly no smaller.

 

Go magnum if your chambered for it, otherwise 2.5" and as heavy a load as you can get non magnum as that also increases the shot count. 42+ grams is ideal.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Alsone

[charlie caller 3,654]

No 3s for foxes everytime mate.

[shropshire dan 467]

+1 CC I use eley alphamax mag+ 42g no.3 for fox and goose. Great cartridge a little kick in my old SBS.

[walshie 2,804]

I'm a 42g no.1 man myself.

[SportingShooter 0]

Anything from AAA to 3s for foxes is in the ideal range really,

 

These buckshot shells they use over the pond are the equivalent to our SG, SSG and Sp. SG.

 

In all, not enough pellets to have a realistic chance at killing something fox sized past 20 yards.

 

[andyf 144]

Agree, not enough shot to make any sort of pattern.

I experimented with large shot a few years ago, not scientific but generally as follows:

 

No pattern, take ten shots at 35 yards maybe one will have half of the pellets in the 30" kill zone, most will have only 5 to 7 on the paper

let alone the 30" circle and one didn't have any holes at all!!

 

They ricochet very badly off hard ground and trees, and carry with power to over 100 yards.

 

A tight choke actually opens the spread, a true cylinder gave the most consistant results.

 

For the USA and 'home defence' I can see the point, at 10 yards point it nearly on and the target will get something, that can't be guaranteed

with a handgun single bullet, especially with a novice behind the gun.

 

So for foxing no not really, but buy a box and test your own theory.

[Bigad 136]

 

My choice works well for me

[Alsone 789]

Advantage of a magnum gun - 50 grams = 125 pellets of BB or 193 of No: 3

[celticrusader 78]

Quick question boys...wonder if anyone can give me the answer to this

 

What makes a cartridge/round/bullet etc etc a magnum?

[Alsone 789]

Pressure either through the size of the powder load or the effects of the inertia of the weight of the lead pellets. Either sends the pressure up.

[SportingShooter 0]

In ballistic terms, a magnum is a cartridge with a larger load and usually a longer case to hold it,

 

For instance in a 12 bore you have 3" and 3.5" Magnum cartridges, the latter being able to contain around 64 grams of lead shot, more than twice what a 12 bore was designed to take.

 

In rifles & pistols it normally means an elongated or adapted case, for instance a .357 S&W Magnum is a .38 Special case which has been lengthened, the same with a .44 Remington Magnum which is an elongated .44 Special case.

 

And yes, more pressure

[celticrusader 78]

Ahhhh...exactly what I thought but struggle to find a definitive answer while scouring the internet over the years.

Thanks guys?