kyboy44 11 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I have find something about pointers be used for stalking dogs for deer to let the hunter know when deer are near and to find the deer had been shot bad I was wondering if anyone could give some ideas for making a stalking dog it would be again the law for deer besides boold work but I see some used for game here most rabbit and fox which from what I have been able to find has been game take by stalking dogs and also for coyote just need to know how to go about the training for one and if there are any books for training one think you very much Quote Link to post
3175darren 1,102 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 The above books are good, my late pointer would work anything and seemed to know when you were stalking, as his whole demeaner changed, a good book which focuses a little more on blood scenting, although the guy mainly uses teckle terriers but the principle is the same as I have used it on both and still have a Teckel, look for a author called John jeaneny, I think the book is dogs for blood scenting deer, I will correct this if it's wrong later on, as I will need to dig the book out,between the books suggested by joe, and this book you will have most of the answers you need, Quote Link to post
kyboy44 11 Posted August 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Think you all just wondering what kind of pointers have you heard of be used as a stalking dogs Quote Link to post
3175darren 1,102 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Mine was short haired Hope that works but most tend to use wirehaird I did spend time training a wirehaird Hungarian visla and that proved very capable, long and short or it it is personal preference, a good lab or terrier will follow blood, Quote Link to post
Guest OutdoorFanatic Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 wow ! thats a great pointer ^ Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 think pretty much any dog can be trained to track wounded deer, all of my lurchers have learned it very easily. know a couple of people who use pointers (both gwps) and both are very capable. 2 Quote Link to post
franatic 54 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Bavarian mountain hounds are ideal trackers for the job 2 Quote Link to post
MIK 4,763 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 As said above most hunting/gun dog breeds will do the task Quote Link to post
John Stott 202 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 A friend in NC swears by Tickhounds. Yet to see one in England but sound a good all round dog. Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Bavarian mountain hounds are ideal trackers for the job the chap who used to be head stalker at woburn had one, he reckoned it was very good but i never saw it work myself Quote Link to post
3175darren 1,102 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I would always go for more of a all rounder,like a pointer I tried having a dedicated blood dog and there isn't the work to keep them game fully employed over here, a wounded deer is a rarity, and one that can't be followed up by a decent stalker also rare I have even had to put my teckle to rabbiting, in order to give the dog a usefull life, 3 Quote Link to post
sussex 5,803 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Always thought a Lab was one of the best all rounders available , I used my old one not just to track wounded deer but to be with me all the time while out stalking , the dog would sit the second she scented deer & not move . Over the years you just trusted her , if she sat down their where deer close by , she got me five or six a year that I just would'nt have seen . Absolutely rock steady under a high seat I've had deer just yards from her without her moving a muscle . I worked her on deer for two years before I started to shoot over her at which she excelled, sadly retired & looking fragile know I would be lucky to find a better all round shooting dog ....not for the want of trying a new Lab now 12 months old is coming along quite well ..... 1 Quote Link to post
AThomas 32 Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm in the process of training my first deer dog,a teckel. I'm training him to follow blood,as well as walking by my side to indicate deer,so far it's all going smooth, but he's a tenacious little guy,very very loyal,and extremely strong willed. I've done some very small tracks from when he was 10weeks,hes now 7months old and will scent with little blood over several hours. There is a few good books,your country man john jeaneny who uses the breed exclusively,neil sonderguard's book also worth a buy. i am by no means an expert,but there is a big difference between a dog that can find dead deer,and a dedicated tracking dog capable of following scent with no blood over 24hrs up and inc 1 mile and further. I wanted a companion,something in the house,and small enough to travel up to Scotland,what i got was a pocket rottweiler lol hes not interested in anything other that deer,which is great for me but anything deer related,skin,feet etc if he's got hold I wouldn't dare go near him. http://www.born-to-track.com/ 1 Quote Link to post
3175darren 1,102 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I'm in the process of training my first deer dog,a teckel. I'm training him to follow blood,as well as walking by my side to indicate deer,so far it's all going smooth, but he's a tenacious little guy,very very loyal,and extremely strong willed. I've done some very small tracks from when he was 10weeks,hes now 7months old and will scent with little blood over several hours. There is a few good books,your country man john jeaneny who uses the breed exclusively,neil sonderguard's book also worth a buy. i am by no means an expert,but there is a big difference between a dog that can find dead deer,and a dedicated tracking dog capable of following scent with no blood over 24hrs up and inc 1 mile and further. I wanted a companion,something in the house,and small enough to travel up to Scotland,what i got was a pocket rottweiler lol hes not interested in anything other that deer,which is great for me but anything deer related,skin,feet etc if he's got hold I wouldn't dare go near him. http://www.born-to-track.com/ Yep that's a Teckel they commit to what they are doing totally,when you shoot a deer while out with him, you will get a different dog again,any of my deer I shot that ran any distance,which normally no more than 50 yds or so I would let me little dog hunt in on any available blood just to keep her nose in,and when she got to the carcase she became a little b*t*h, she would defend that carcase as though her life depended on it,back at the bothy any other dog came near and boom she would flip, Quote Link to post
kyboy44 11 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 thinks you all I have looked around for the books you all told my about but so far no luck I was wanting to ask when you start a pup out do you use sent triles to teach them that the way we would bring up a hound pup and that was all we had when I was younger I know nothing about gundogs and when you run pointers do they go on point like they do on tv thinks Quote Link to post
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