STRANGER 948 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Game of battleships anyone? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Game of battleships anyone? Yeah, but I'm not playing if I haven't got a carrier! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Themoocher 231 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 What part of that is luck? That's a piss poor argentine planning. They had mostly conscripts correct, but even when faced with their best they were no match even for smaller numbers of marines and paras. We never lost a single land battle! And to say they would have smashed our fleet is ridiculous, the core of the fleet was kept safely back to the East of the Islands. The harriers advanced sidewinders gave the Task force air superiority. It was only when Frigates were sent in for Naval artillery bombardments they became susceptable. The Destroyer/Frigate air defence trap employed worked well and IIRC only failed due to bad luck on our behalf with radar. The argies got as much luck as we did. We had the capability to strike at their very hearts but considered it strategically the wrong move at the time. The Vulcans and Conquerer terrified the Argies, they were'nt safe anywhere. Three simultaneously launched topedoes neutralised the entire argentine navy! The Vulcans caused the argies most valuable air assets to be pulled back to the mainland. What you call luck I call outstanding military planning. So what would have happened in the ground battle if small 2 or 3 battle groups had been defeated? There would have been no one else to send in. What if, what if..... what if the carriers had been sunk, what if the argy commandos had successfully sunk ships at Gibraltar, what if the UN had turned on us. Fact is what we were presented with we dealt with in a campaign on the other side of the planet in our enemies back yard! You make it sound like we sent our entire military. LOL. What if we had dropped a fecking Polaris on buenos aires? LOL Scot, we had the use of a yank carrier if Hermes was sunk. All I'm saying is it wasn't as straight forward as going down there and kickin argeries ass. There was a lot of heads or tails moments in that conflict. What if what ifs your right could go on all day. Paras and marines are and still the only battle groups that could have done that. They are the core of our military and they are only small battle groups. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 That sir, I'll agree with you on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Oh look on the bright side, all those do gooders and lefties will be busy when the Russian tanks roll into the heart of Ukraine,and start cleansing them. We could sneakily cleanse our own while their looking the other way lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Themoocher 231 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Oh look on the bright side, all those do gooders and lefties will be busy when the Russian tanks roll into the heart of Ukraine,and start cleansing them. We could sneakily cleanse our own while their looking the other way lol Do you think they will role in to Ukraine? I can't see it. I think Putin was securing his assets in Crimea. He has a lot of military assets there. He got pushed into a corner and had to react. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 If Russians keep getting killed then aye my money would be on that. I agree with you and born, Putin is playing a game and chancing his arm. And from what I can see there no great fycking threat stopping him from doing it. We look weak and undecided. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 There's a lot of what ifs in here, if your granny had balls she would have been your granda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Turn the taps off on who's energy supplies? We aren't dependant on Russia for energy, it's one of the sensible things Blair did. The Europeans jumped into bed with them, not the UK.We are depenent on European and Russian gas both direct and by proxy, if Russia turn the taps off on Europe we'd be fecked in no time, thats not looking at how we are even more dependent on Russian coal. That's not quite the same as being dependant on Russian Gas though is it. It's not like Russia can just switch off our gas without utterly f*****g themselves by switching off the whole of Europes. You said yourself that economically the EU has power to make Russia bend........... so to punish the UK you suggest the Russians are going to piss off the whole of the EU? As for coal, I'm sure we can buy it elsewhere. We can buy coal from the petrol station near me-it's also handy if you need milk after 10 pm 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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