Feeding Lurchers

[ferret20 1]

hey im new to this site and also new to hunting and i am buying a deerhound x greyhound for lamping next year and i was just wondering about feeding before hunting, is there a certain way to feed a dog before hunting or is it just feed him after the hunt also how many times a day should the dog be fed (im only a terrier man) so sorry for the questions.

[fox digger 1,086]

welcome pal, off topic but what has you set on a deerhound greyhound?

[ferret20 1]

thank mate,

because im looking for an all rounder and i used to know a fella who had a lovely greyhound x deerhound x collie bitch a [BANNED TEXT] good workier she was

[Brigzy 1,298]

Why do yo consider yourself "only a terrier man" ? Some of the best dog men in the world are terrier men . If you can feed a terrier correctly then you should have a good idea how to feed a lurcher, or any other dog. Good luck with whatever you decide on.

[ferret20 1]

thanks man i only consider meself a terrier man because i only ever had working terriers never had the space before for a lurcher so i only no very little about them.

[jhiggins 48]

I usually give mine a tuna and wholemeal pasta mix in the morning before a nights lamping or in the evening before a mornings mooching.

 

My bitch seems to be full of energy after eating it which suits me well.

 

Only thing ive ever been warned about is running your dog on a full stomach, so I never feed within 7-8 hours of working her.

 

Just my opinion, im sure others will have there own routine.

 

J

[whitefeet4190 1,729]

I feed twice a day but only feed in morning if going out lampung that night and if I go out in morning i won't feed until I get back that day, in the summer I feed a lot less meat as they don't need it if they are not working, but that type of dog is a big dog for a big job I'd say a deer x grey is not gonna be a good all rounder I'd go for something with whippet in it even a deer x whippet grey if u like that sort of breed.

Atb

[sandymere 8,263]

Depends how long/hard it will be working.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

I feed twice a day but only feed in morning if going out lampung that night and if I go out in morning i won't feed until I get back that day, in the summer I feed a lot less meat as they don't need it if they are not working, but that type of dog is a big dog for a big job I'd say a deer x grey is not gonna be a good all rounder I'd go for something with whippet in it even a deer x whippet grey if u like that sort of breed.

Atb

Why don't you think a deer/grey will be good for a bit of everything?

[Chid 6,789]

 

I feed twice a day but only feed in morning if going out lampung that night and if I go out in morning i won't feed until I get back that day, in the summer I feed a lot less meat as they don't need it if they are not working, but that type of dog is a big dog for a big job I'd say a deer x grey is not gonna be a good all rounder I'd go for something with whippet in it even a deer x whippet grey if u like that sort of breed.

Atb

Why don't you think a deer/grey will be good for a bit of everything?

Cause there shite

[sandymere 8,263]

An old post but has some merit.

 

It's pretty much accepted that different types of exercise and lifestyles require different feeding regimes i.e. a lap dog in a posh pad will need a markedly different diet to a sled dog during a long distance race. Most dogs will fall somewhere between these two extremes with working dogs, in particular, needing individual management of their diet to optimize performance.

Canine athletes depend on fats as their main fuel source when resting or at gentle exercise, 60% of energy supplied by fats at 40% of effort, however glucose converted from glycogen is needed especially during high intensity exercise such as sprinting. As exercise intensity increases the amount of glucose used increases whereas fat use remains relatively stable. So % of energy is supplied by glucose at 85% of effort. Studies have shown that dogs undergoing high intensity exercise were only replacing approximately 65% of their stores of glycogen in the first 24 hours when fed a normal meal an hour or more post exercise This can result in dogs undertaking high speed type work, such as lurchers or any breed that push their own personal limits, not fully replacing their energy stores by the next day. Fine for the once a week workers but this may well have a negative impact on those that work their dogs on a more regular basis.
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The process whereby glycogen is taken up by the dogs muscle cells is normally controlled by insulin but this is superseded while exercising and for approximately ½ an hour afterwards by another, faster, process, that could be described as direct uptake. As this process is so short acting, to utilize it, appropriate carbs need to be made available to maximize re-stocking of energy stores during or within half an hour of exercise. There is a reduced blood flow to the gastrointestinal system during exercise and for a period after but that does not mean that there is a complete cessation of digestion and appropriate carbs at this time will be digested and enter the blood stream, as glucose, to become available for this direct uptake system to utilize.

Previously I have advocated glucose, usually in drink form, as an appropriate form of carbs for this replacement but there are some problems with this. Simple sugars like glucose need to be diluted in a lot of water for digestion so water needs to be given at the same time or body fluids will be utilized when they are needed elsewhere but a stomach full of water soon after high intensity exercise may cause vomiting, the glucose/water effect may cause diarrhea and a sudden increase in glucose can cause a matching insulin high which in turn may lead to a reduction in blood glucose. As a dropping glucose will be counterproductive other alternatives have been tried to overcome this problem. Complex carbohydrates, i.e. cereal etc, are slow to break down and better suited to being part of the main meal as a baseline Carbohydrate to replace the stores through the slower insulin process. Honey has been used in the past but it can have the same digestion problems as glucose plus it takes time and energy to be converted into glucose and may not be ready within the ½ hour time frame. Maltodextrins are sugars that fall between these two extremes they are easily/quickly absorbed, are less likely to case sudden rushes of glucose with the resultant insulin highs and are readily available.

Maltodextrin use in sporting dogs has been the subject of a number of studies, these seem to show dogs given a supplement prior to exercise had raised glucose levels during the exercise period, so glucose is available for direct uptake when needed; alternatively a supplement afterwards increased glucose levels within 15 minutes of administration. With both methods glycogen levels recovered significantly better during the following 24 hrs than those not receiving a supplement.

In conclusion the research suggests that a supplement of multodextrin may well increase work tolerance for sprint type exercise and improve recovery during the following 24 hours. Bearing in mind the above results and easy availability of maltodextrin type energy bars giving approximately one and a half grams per kilo of body weight to a hard working dog is defiantly worth considering.

[ferret20 1]

thanks for the reply's lads erally helps alot

thanks