Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 It's a balance mate, the wealthiest countries have the best defense. I see us going bankrupt more of a threat to our defense than if we strengthen it or not. And I don't see defence spending being a significant cause of that. We spend something like 2-3% GDP on defence. Something I consider essential at the level we have currently. But that's where we hit an impasse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 It's a balance mate, the wealthiest countries have the best defense. I see us going bankrupt more of a threat to our defense than if we strengthen it or not. And I don't see defence spending being a significant cause of that. We spend something like 2-3% GDP on defence. Something I consider essential at the level we have currently. But that's where we hit an impasse. Ask nurses etc where they want the money spent, the countries on its knees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 The cost of deploying our armed forces in these third world dumps must have been a large percentage of the budget though which is probably why we had to scrap the harriers etc. If we had never bothered with those wars wouldn't our armed forces be healthier and better equipt? I would just like to see what exactly we have gained from all of this. I suspect once we pull out Afghanistan will turn in to a giant cluster f**k, Iraq is a giant cluster f**k already and god only know's what's happening in Libya. Have we weakened our ability to defend ourselves against threats from the big players rather than make ourselves more secure? I'm all for a nuclear deterrent and a top class defense military. I'm not for us being the worlds policemen unless we have very clear goals about how we are going to proceed and what our exit strategy is. The situation we put our troops in to in Helmand in the early days of the war was unbelievable, they were completely under resourced and seemed to have little goal, there was almost no media coverage of it whatsoever and the more I read about it I just couldn't believe in this day and age our Top Brass were so clueless. The soldiers acquitted themselves admirably but it beggars believe what they were expected to do with so few troops in Helmand. It was after reading Doug Beatties book that this started to become clear to me. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 So would you be happy to personaly scrape by week after week just so we have a massive defence bill ? Fook that may as well be dead anyways. Life is for living. Happy medium is the key. I'd be happy for the country not to have made a rod for it's own back with the welfare state we live in where 50% Gov spending goes to health & social care! Lets face it, a lot fo countries have nothing like the military we do. Why not go for that eh? Happy medium.......... that's great untill things become unhappy! Which they historically have every 30 years or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 we give India 1.9 billion a year, 450 million a year to Pakistan and even 27 million a year to china, then they say we need to make cuts to our defence budget, Even harder to get my head around is the fact more people work in the NHS than there is in the Chinese army Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weasle 1,119 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Who evers in these are the real superpowers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 imagesCA3AVZ93.jpg Who evers in these are the real superpowers old school. these are the future of air power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Yeah, you're right.................... USAF Eagles by the look of it....... So, the US. Edited February 5, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 imagesCA3AVZ93.jpg Who evers in these are the real superpowers old school. these are the future of air power You seen that thing they're developing at BAE? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 imagesCA3AVZ93.jpg Who evers in these are the real superpowers old school. these are the future of air power You seen that thing they're developing at BAE? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis thats it in the picture Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 imagesCA3AVZ93.jpg Who evers in these are the real superpowers old school. these are the future of air power You seen that thing they're developing at BAE? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis That popped up on my FB news feed today! Mental bit of kit. Our very own home grown intercontinental unmanned stealth bomber! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 imagesCA3AVZ93.jpg Who evers in these are the real superpowers old school. these are the future of air power You seen that thing they're developing at BAE? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis That popped up on my FB news feed today! Mental bit of kit. Our very own home grown intercontinental unmanned stealth bomber! they have been testing it in Australia in the outback somewhere for a couple of years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 imagesCA3AVZ93.jpg Who evers in these are the real superpowers old school. these are the future of air power You seen that thing they're developing at BAE?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis thats it in the picture so it is! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weasle 1,119 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 All that money yet those little disks would still fly circles around them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Id rather we stopped all Foreign aid and used this money to not only update our military but just as importantly update our Hospitals, Nursing homes, Roads, Railways, Sea Defences, ect ect Like i say Happy Medium with a dash of common sense. I agree with a happy medium. Trouble is my happy medium and your happy medium aren't the same. LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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