Jamie m 668 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Wtf . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 You have to pay the tax but the next thing you should do is put in for all expenses you've incurred over the entire year training and feeding dogs, clothing, travel etc. They will owe you money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie m 668 Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Who's they the shoot ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Tax man. If they are taxing the money you make from beating and treating it as paid work the as far as I can see you can claim back tax on any expenses the same way a plumber or mechanic can claim back the tax on money he spends on tools. So if you are beating without a dog you should be able to claim something for clothing and the petrol to get there. If you have a dog I would imagine you can claim something for its food as the dog is a tool for the 'job'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/payerti/employee-starting/special-situations/temps/harvest-casuals.htm Explains it all there, if you can understand it? TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Pay them in conkers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,959 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Nick, working dog food is VAT free to my knowledge. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SINDASOX 256 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Just read two articles on this, and they both say that HMRC will class Beaters as employee's and will not accept them as Self Employed, so in effect they will not be able to claim any expenses....???....i've put the links below. Here and Here SINDASOX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie m 668 Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yep, what a joke it's a hobby 20 quid ffs . Covers fuel smokes sandwich , I'm hardly going to give up a days work to go out for twenty quid when I earn more than 5 times that . There just wankers , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Nick, working dog food is VAT free to my knowledge. Well I'm happy to be corrected as I am no expert on Tax but this is how I see it. You have to buy a van for a small business and you have to put petrol in it to do the work so the van can be an asset which depreciates over 3-5 years but the running costs petrol/maintenance etc you put down on you tax bill and you don't pay income tax (not VAT) on those business expenses. So if they are going to treat beating as work and providing you are self employed you should be able to put the running costs down on your tax form as well and if beating means using a dog surely that includes food and vets fees as well as any clothes and fuel costs. They cannot have this both ways, as a self employed person myself I get a % of my house bills knocked off my taxable income. Entirely fair as I run the business from home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 But most of you think the bedroom tax is ok...If your earning money..pay the tax 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 But most of you think the bedroom tax is ok...If your earning money..pay the tax the bedroom tax isn't a tax Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 But most of you think the bedroom tax is ok...If your earning money..pay the tax the bedroom tax isn't a tax I beg to differ. Airport tax is a surcharge that the goverment imposes on anyone one who flies. Insurance tax is a surcharge that the goverment imposes on anyone who takes out insurance. Bedroom tax is a surcharge that the goverment has imposed on anyone who is on benifits, if they have a spare room. Can you see the similarities? TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxtails 272 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Tax man. If they are taxing the money you make from beating and treating it as paid work the as far as I can see you can claim back tax on any expenses the same way a plumber or mechanic can claim back the tax on money he spends on tools. So if you are beating without a dog you should be able to claim something for clothing and the petrol to get there. If you have a dog I would imagine you can claim something for its food as the dog is a tool for the 'job'. exactly lol this world is going to the dogs lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 my local shoot has just took 10 lads off the dole who have never been beating before they had them on a zero hour contract theres on 3 of the lads left now they had no idea what they were letting them selfs in for lol i start with them on monday full time and the days were not shooting i will be getting the rearing field sorted and feeding birds ect its classed as an under keeper i will be working on 4 different estates for the shoot so i hope my expenses are paid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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