Born Hunter 17,910 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) If we take it that each star is a sun and each sun has a solar sytem? Then what is out there is little pockets of solar sytems with nothing inbetween? Does that mean that each sun is in a fixed position or do they float around interstella space? Come on Mal your up on this sort of thing. TC The whole galaxy of stars we're in is rotating on its axis at a fair old lick mate.. It's also moving away from the centre of the universe and in a few million/billion years will collide with the neighbouring Andromeda galaxy.. If that is the case? Then is not the Andromeda Galaxy not moving away from the centre of the universe also? TC There is no center to the universe. Generally all galaxies are moving away from each other, like dots on the surface of a baloon being inflated. Look at Hubble's law. In that analogy you have to try to imagine the 2 dimensional surface of a baloon representing 3 dimensional space. The inside of the baloon does not exist in space. Edited September 12, 2013 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,622 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 If we take it that each star is a sun and each sun has a solar sytem? Then what is out there is little pockets of solar sytems with nothing inbetween? Does that mean that each sun is in a fixed position or do they float around interstella space? Come on Mal your up on this sort of thing. TC The whole galaxy of stars we're in is rotating on its axis at a fair old lick mate.. It's also moving away from the centre of the universe and in a few million/billion years will collide with the neighbouring Andromeda galaxy.. If that is the case? Then is not the Andromeda Galaxy not moving away from the centre of the universe also? TC There is no center to the universe. Generally all galaxies are moving away from each other, like dots on the surface of a baloon being inflated. Look at Hubble's law. In that analogy you have to try to imagine the 2 dimensional surface of a baloon representing 3 dimensional space. The inside of the baloon does not exist in space. All clear now TC ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 To try to avoid THL ridicule I'll just say, there is no center to the universe. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STRANGER 948 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) To try to avoid THL ridicule I'll just say, there is no center to the universe. what's in the middle then? Edited September 12, 2013 by STRANGER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,622 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 To try to avoid THL ridicule I'll just say, there is no center to the universe. what's in the middle then? A balloon I think??? Lol 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STRANGER 948 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 To try to avoid THL ridicule I'll just say, there is no center to the universe. what's in the middle then? A balloon I think??? Lol lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STRANGER 948 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Just looked up Hubbles law on Wikipedia 1. Sounds like a load of shite to me. 2. I must be bored out my tits. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 So it's fair to say, there is no begining, there in no end, and there is no centre? Just looked a 3d map of the known universe and from what I read that is 1% of what it actually could be. No one really knows the extent, or how it works, re the ballon theory. Because we are limited in our thinking we find it hard to understand infinity. As everything we deal with has a beginning and an end? TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 There is no middle mate, there's no edge either. Well, strictly speaking there might be, I can't prove there isn't but the maths and observations suggest there isn't. Best I understand it, we currently believe that the universe like the surface of a baloon has no center. If galaxies are dots on the surface of that baloon, when the baloon is inflated (big bang and expansion) all the the dots move further apart with any individual dot seeing all the others moving away from it (like it's the center). Don't ask me what happens if you travel all the way around the surface or through the middle, they're more testing questions that depend heavily on the 'shape' of the universe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 So it's fair to say, there is no begining, there in no end, and there is no centre? Just looked a 3d map of the known universe and from what I read that is 1% of what it actually could be. No one really knows the extent, or how it works, re the ballon theory. Because we are limited in our thinking we find it hard to understand infinity. As everything we deal with has a beginning and an end? TC Dunno what you read mate but infinity is bullshit, nothing is infinite. When maths gives infinity, you've made a mistake! The universe had a start and will have an end. Just not a center. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Just looked up Hubbles law on Wikipedia 1. Sounds like a load of shite to me. 2. I must be bored out my tits. A chap called hubble, sat in his observatory for many nights measuring the velocity of distant galaxies and deep space objects by red shift calculations. He found the generally they were all moving away at velocities proportional to their distance from us. That's it really. That coupled with some clever maths from Einstein I believe and a few others gets us here. He's got a honkin great telescope in space named after him! Must be true! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) So it's fair to say, there is no begining, there in no end, and there is no centre? Just looked a 3d map of the known universe and from what I read that is 1% of what it actually could be. No one really knows the extent, or how it works, re the ballon theory. Because we are limited in our thinking we find it hard to understand infinity. As everything we deal with has a beginning and an end? TC Dunno what you read mate but infinity is bullshit, nothing is infinite. When maths gives infinity, you've made a mistake! The universe had a start and will have an end. Just not a center. I am speaking from the viewpoint of the man in the street. I am just asking question to try and understand a little. An expanding universe if it is as you state like a ballon being blown up till it burst. Does it have a catalist for the expansion the same as a ballon has air injected to cause it to expand? Why does the universe have to have a start and an end? I have read of the birth of stars and the death of stars. Surly because we are just human and are constrained by our notions of our time scale. Whats to say that time is just non existant, and just a scale that we as humans measure to make sense of our orbit around our sun? BTW re infinity and maths whats 1/3rd of a 100? Is it not 33.3 recuring? A very puzzled TC Edited September 12, 2013 by tiercel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Is this green really good, or is this some deep shit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 infinity is relative to space, space is relative to speed, speed is relative to time, time is relative to distance, the simple fact is we are too slow to explore the universe, crack speed and time and distance fall into place, then infinity becomes obsolete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Voyager 1 becomes the first man made object to leave the solar system and cross into interstellar space..http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24026153 Only another 40,000 years until it gets to its next stop! Ill be lucky if I get to sleep tonight now.....load of shite!! If the probe had a pair of false tits and had appeared on Big Brother you'd be all over it like sloppy dog shit on a boot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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