Bull Fighting In Portugal

[marshman 7,758]

A good few years ago I watched several bullfights I think I saw eights bulls killed in all . You definitely feel you're like watching something from an ancient era , you could almost be in the coliseum . The matadors are like superstars signing autographs and having there pictures taken afterwards, and we was made very welcome by the people . A strange day one which I haven't forgotten!

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

The bullfights were my passion for many years and I hope one day to go back to spain to follow the bulls again (after the babys a bit older) I'm not going to go into it here as I would end up feeling the same as arguing about fox hunting with an anti, frustrated, if you enjoy it no reason is necessary if you dont 'get' it no explanation is possible.

 

One thing I will say, its not a sport and you would never hear anyone who loves the bulls describe it as such. In spain its protected as part of the nations culture and heritage, they have done better at protecting their culture than we have here.

 

If you dont like the look of it then at the very least dont demean yourself or lower yourself to the level of an anti by gobbing off and offering an opinion on something you have no knowledge nor experience of.

 

If anyone genuinely has an interest in the bulls and has any questions I will do my best to answer them.

You seriously can't be comparing bullfighting with fox hunting, are you? Ones a wild pest, hunted in its natural environment given fair law. The others a trapped animal, horns filed, getting slowly killed by an egotistical fanny surrounded by morons baying for its blood. No comparison. It's a sick form of entertainment, nothing more.

No i'm not comparing the 2 in any way i'm comparing people who rage against it with no knowledge or experience. Just like with foxhunting or indeed people who eat 6 week old electrocuted chickens in fast food shops I dont need nor want to defend myself to people who think otherwise. Iv seen the inside workings of both foxhunting and the bullfights in spain, I really have no interest in defending either to someone who has already decided i'm a moron.

Sounds to me you lack the ability to defend it. Fair dos. My view on it and yes you are correct, you couldn't pay me to watch it. My views are, it serves no purpose other than for barbaric entertainment. Are you capable of giving us a good purpose for it? At least with hunting, we are providing a service, eliminating a problem be it a fox stealing chickens, a rabbit eating crops. I'll grant you hare coursing is probably the closest form of hunting for pleasure but even that's on the hares terms, animal to animal, quick death. Not by some macho ponce (except saluki owners)

[kranky 507]

I think the comparison between fox hunting and bull fighting is a fair one if you ask yourself this question.

 

How would you feel if there were members of a Spanish/Portuguese bullfighting forum discussing foxhunting and calling it barbaric, even though the majority of them had never seen it and those that had didn't understand it?

 

I am not going to sit in my house in the UK and try and dictate what goes on in another country or criticise someones traditions. Maybe those of us that follow and support fox hunts and who love the ceremony and tradition associated with it are cut from the same cloth as those who cheer on the matador.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is..............................................................................OLE!!!!!!!!!!!

[baw 4,360]

I think the comparison between fox hunting and bull fighting is a fair one if you ask yourself this question.

 

How would you feel if there were members of a Spanish/Portuguese bullfighting forum discussing foxhunting and calling it barbaric, even though the majority of them had never seen it and those that had didn't understand it?

 

I am not going to sit in my house in the UK and try and dictate what goes on in another country or criticise someones traditions. Maybe those of us that follow and support fox hunts and who love the ceremony and tradition associated with it are cut from the same cloth as those who cheer on the matador.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is..............................................................................OLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Right........ So unless it happens in the uk, we can't comment? Dogs getting skinned alive in Russia...... Who cares, we don't understand. Chinese frying fish alive and eating them still alive on the table...... Seal cubs getting battered, batter in boys. All of these things could be classes as culture, tradition. I couldn't care if folk think fox hunting is cruel, I can debate the issue, can they?

[Born Hunter 17,960]

 

 

 

The bullfights were my passion for many years and I hope one day to go back to spain to follow the bulls again (after the babys a bit older) I'm not going to go into it here as I would end up feeling the same as arguing about fox hunting with an anti, frustrated, if you enjoy it no reason is necessary if you dont 'get' it no explanation is possible.

 

One thing I will say, its not a sport and you would never hear anyone who loves the bulls describe it as such. In spain its protected as part of the nations culture and heritage, they have done better at protecting their culture than we have here.

 

If you dont like the look of it then at the very least dont demean yourself or lower yourself to the level of an anti by gobbing off and offering an opinion on something you have no knowledge nor experience of.

 

If anyone genuinely has an interest in the bulls and has any questions I will do my best to answer them.

You seriously can't be comparing bullfighting with fox hunting, are you? Ones a wild pest, hunted in its natural environment given fair law. The others a trapped animal, horns filed, getting slowly killed by an egotistical fanny surrounded by morons baying for its blood. No comparison. It's a sick form of entertainment, nothing more.

No i'm not comparing the 2 in any way i'm comparing people who rage against it with no knowledge or experience. Just like with foxhunting or indeed people who eat 6 week old electrocuted chickens in fast food shops I dont need nor want to defend myself to people who think otherwise. Iv seen the inside workings of both foxhunting and the bullfights in spain, I really have no interest in defending either to someone who has already decided i'm a moron.

Sounds to me you lack the ability to defend it. Fair dos. My view on it and yes you are correct, you couldn't pay me to watch it. My views are, it serves no purpose other than for barbaric entertainment. Are you capable of giving us a good purpose for it? At least with hunting, we are providing a service, eliminating a problem be it a fox stealing chickens, a rabbit eating crops. I'll grant you hare coursing is probably the closest form of hunting for pleasure but even that's on the hares terms, animal to animal, quick death. Not by some macho ponce (except saluki owners)

 

 

Baw, when two people fundamentally dissagree no amount of argueing will change that. DIDO is smart enough to realise that, nothing to do with the ability to defend his views.

 

Shit stiring as ever eh. Call me mystic meg but this'll go 10 more pages of you arguing with no experience on the subject and then once ya bored, you'll admit to knowing f**k all about it and change ya mind...................

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

The bullfights were my passion for many years and I hope one day to go back to spain to follow the bulls again (after the babys a bit older) I'm not going to go into it here as I would end up feeling the same as arguing about fox hunting with an anti, frustrated, if you enjoy it no reason is necessary if you dont 'get' it no explanation is possible.

 

One thing I will say, its not a sport and you would never hear anyone who loves the bulls describe it as such. In spain its protected as part of the nations culture and heritage, they have done better at protecting their culture than we have here.

 

If you dont like the look of it then at the very least dont demean yourself or lower yourself to the level of an anti by gobbing off and offering an opinion on something you have no knowledge nor experience of.

 

If anyone genuinely has an interest in the bulls and has any questions I will do my best to answer them.

You seriously can't be comparing bullfighting with fox hunting, are you? Ones a wild pest, hunted in its natural environment given fair law. The others a trapped animal, horns filed, getting slowly killed by an egotistical fanny surrounded by morons baying for its blood. No comparison. It's a sick form of entertainment, nothing more.

No i'm not comparing the 2 in any way i'm comparing people who rage against it with no knowledge or experience. Just like with foxhunting or indeed people who eat 6 week old electrocuted chickens in fast food shops I dont need nor want to defend myself to people who think otherwise. Iv seen the inside workings of both foxhunting and the bullfights in spain, I really have no interest in defending either to someone who has already decided i'm a moron.

Sounds to me you lack the ability to defend it. Fair dos. My view on it and yes you are correct, you couldn't pay me to watch it. My views are, it serves no purpose other than for barbaric entertainment. Are you capable of giving us a good purpose for it? At least with hunting, we are providing a service, eliminating a problem be it a fox stealing chickens, a rabbit eating crops. I'll grant you hare coursing is probably the closest form of hunting for pleasure but even that's on the hares terms, animal to animal, quick death. Not by some macho ponce (except saluki owners)

Baw, when two people fundamentally dissagree no amount of argueing will change that. DIDO is smart enough to realise that, nothing to do with the ability to defend his views.

 

Shit stiring as ever eh. Call me mystic meg but this'll go 10 more pages of you arguing with no experience on the subject and then once ya bored, you'll admit to knowing f**k all about it and change ya mind...................

what's there to know, a trapped animal is slowly killed in front of an audience, that's basically it. I couldn't care less what it simplifies just like I don't care what throwing live goats out of upper floor windows simplifies.

[baw 4,360]

Symbolizes bloody iPhone

[Born Hunter 17,960]

 

 

Baw, when two people fundamentally dissagree no amount of argueing will change that. DIDO is smart enough to realise that, nothing to do with the ability to defend his views.

 

Shit stiring as ever eh. Call me mystic meg but this'll go 10 more pages of you arguing with no experience on the subject and then once ya bored, you'll admit to knowing f**k all about it and change ya mind...................

what's there to know, a trapped animal is slowly killed in front of an audience, that's basically it. I couldn't care less what it simplifies just like I don't care what throwing live goats out of upper floor windows simplifies.

 

 

That's not what fundamentally means in this context. One party thinks it's right, the other doesn't, and no logical argument can prove either wrong. Therefore pointless to argue. Therefore DIDO wins.

[mushroom 14,216]

What? So they stick shit in the bull. Then ..... what? Do they get a vet to patch it up? Or do they 'humanely' kill it and butcher it?

In Mexico they make tacos out of him

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

Baw, when two people fundamentally dissagree no amount of argueing will change that. DIDO is smart enough to realise that, nothing to do with the ability to defend his views.

 

Shit stiring as ever eh. Call me mystic meg but this'll go 10 more pages of you arguing with no experience on the subject and then once ya bored, you'll admit to knowing f**k all about it and change ya mind...................

what's there to know, a trapped animal is slowly killed in front of an audience, that's basically it. I couldn't care less what it simplifies just like I don't care what throwing live goats out of upper floor windows simplifies.

That's not what fundamentally means in this context. One party thinks it's right, the other doesn't, and no logical argument can prove either wrong. Therefore pointless to argue. Therefore DIDO wins.

nice try bubba. If someone can't debate their side of why they think its right, then that's fine. Why you so interested in defending him anyway lol.

[Born Hunter 17,960]

 

 

 

 

Baw, when two people fundamentally dissagree no amount of argueing will change that. DIDO is smart enough to realise that, nothing to do with the ability to defend his views.

 

Shit stiring as ever eh. Call me mystic meg but this'll go 10 more pages of you arguing with no experience on the subject and then once ya bored, you'll admit to knowing f**k all about it and change ya mind...................

what's there to know, a trapped animal is slowly killed in front of an audience, that's basically it. I couldn't care less what it simplifies just like I don't care what throwing live goats out of upper floor windows simplifies.

That's not what fundamentally means in this context. One party thinks it's right, the other doesn't, and no logical argument can prove either wrong. Therefore pointless to argue. Therefore DIDO wins.

nice try bubba. If someone can't debate their side of why they think its right, then that's fine. Why you so interested in defending him anyway lol.

 

 

Because he's right and your wrong and you're 'fundamentally' a c**t, but I haven't realised that yet so still arguing with you.

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Baw, when two people fundamentally dissagree no amount of argueing will change that. DIDO is smart enough to realise that, nothing to do with the ability to defend his views.

 

Shit stiring as ever eh. Call me mystic meg but this'll go 10 more pages of you arguing with no experience on the subject and then once ya bored, you'll admit to knowing f**k all about it and change ya mind...................

what's there to know, a trapped animal is slowly killed in front of an audience, that's basically it. I couldn't care less what it simplifies just like I don't care what throwing live goats out of upper floor windows simplifies.

That's not what fundamentally means in this context. One party thinks it's right, the other doesn't, and no logical argument can prove either wrong. Therefore pointless to argue. Therefore DIDO wins.

nice try bubba. If someone can't debate their side of why they think its right, then that's fine. Why you so interested in defending him anyway lol.

Because he's right and your wrong and you're 'fundamentally' a c**t, but I haven't realised that yet so still arguing with you.

I just wish you were better at it

[TOMO 29,309]

To be fair baw,,, your one of the best at changing my mind on a subject,, in fact I start agreeing with you when your arguing against me...lol

 

But......dido did you hands down on that previous page......lol

[kranky 507]

 

I think the comparison between fox hunting and bull fighting is a fair one if you ask yourself this question.

 

How would you feel if there were members of a Spanish/Portuguese bullfighting forum discussing foxhunting and calling it barbaric, even though the majority of them had never seen it and those that had didn't understand it?

 

I am not going to sit in my house in the UK and try and dictate what goes on in another country or criticise someones traditions. Maybe those of us that follow and support fox hunts and who love the ceremony and tradition associated with it are cut from the same cloth as those who cheer on the matador.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is..............................................................................OLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Right........ So unless it happens in the uk, we can't comment? Dogs getting skinned alive in Russia...... Who cares, we don't understand. Chinese frying fish alive and eating them still alive on the table...... Seal cubs getting battered, batter in boys. All of these things could be classes as culture, tradition. I couldn't care if folk think fox hunting is cruel, I can debate the issue, can they?

 

Hahahahahaha!!!!!! I had a mental image of you rolling up your sleeves, adjusting your petticoat and leaning towards the computer screen as you started to type!! You big fanny!!!!!!

 

You can comment all you want, I never said that. You can debate all you like, that's your right. I was merely stating that there is a point of reference between the way people view bull fighting and fox hunting.

 

If you was honest, you'd admit that seals get everything they deserve. All that cuteness hides a fish eating machine with no regard for salmon stocks. I don't think caving there heads in is tradition, just the most effective way of harvesting them.

[baw 4,360]

To be fair baw,,, your one of the best at changing my mind on a subject,, in fact I start agreeing with you when your arguing against me...lol

 

But......dido did you hands down on that previous page......lol

it's hard to win a debate with someone who doesn't want to debate it. Everyone could say, I know more than you so there, it's ma Baw I'm not playing. He's obviously passionate about the subject but like all passions we get enthralled in, we can sometimes become blind to what's actually happening. You can create the biggest coliseum the world has ever seen, the strongest bulls, the bravest men....... It's still a trapped dumb animal forced to defend its life till its inevitable slow death for nothing more than entertainment.