Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 More than half of my time out with the dogs now is either on a quarry where my mates got permission or on golf courses. We've also got some permission on some farmland which is moorland and all of this land requires a very quick and at them dog. The golf courses as anyone knows requires whippet like take off speed and agility to match. Also a bit of brain power comes in handy. The quarry also needs a fast, agile dog to quickly get on top of them before they get to the set but also the brains to know where they are running to and cut them off. The moorland whilst bigger land has alot of cover and escape routes so if the dog isn't on top of them in the first few seconds it isn't getting near it. This is the quarry we run on... Whilst the photos don't show the ground that well it is rocky in places, debris everywhere and just generally shitty ground. I have often wondered how a whippet would suit the ground I run but my fear is that it would "break" all too easily. My bitch is sal/whip/grey, just under 24" and pretty racey. She lacks a tiny bit of acceleration and since breaking her foot last year she struggles with some of the turns on the bad ground but she does ok. I have considered whippet/greyhound but again I fear for how robust they would be. I also do a fair bit of ferreting so a few brain cells are a must. I've toyed with putting a well tested veteran collie/bull/grey over my bitch to produce some good all rounders but for the ground I run I am worried these could be too "cloddy" and lack that top end speed. I'm hoping this wont turn into a "my dogs better than your dog" but more a debate on what different people would use on this type of land and with rabbit being the main quarry. Cheers Gaz Quote Link to post
sikastag_1 689 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 collie x or a beddy or wheaten x something that had a abit of pace but was ruf and tumble enough, I would never own a whippet greyhound, not because I don't like them just purely the fact they aint ruff and tumble enough for me. 1 Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,165 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 I don't really think you'll get the answer your looking for. You want a up and at em type dog, and a dog that runs cunning by cutting off its route. That's 2 different running styles in one dog. It would be easier to keep the dog you've got and get some different permission lol Quote Link to post
Whiskey 28 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 My salukie whippet grey bulit proof I run him on out and at out lol if it get a bit off damage on one bit do the rest pal Quote Link to post
pip1968 2,490 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 ive got a bul wheaten grey x col sal grey,and he works any ground rough or smooth he even works woods but that scares the shit out of me when i hear him smashing through the rhoddies 1 Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) my dog gaz you seen where i run he does a job on there and i run moor land and links 3/4 whippet beddy fast on and bounces well Edited June 21, 2013 by troter58 3 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 I don't really think you'll get the answer your looking for. You want a up and at em type dog, and a dog that runs cunning by cutting off its route. That's 2 different running styles in one dog. It would be easier to keep the dog you've got and get some different permission lol The dogs I've got wont be going anywhere pal. I'm just thinking ahead for the future Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 my dog gaz you seen where i run he does a job on there and i run moor land and links 3/4 whippet beddy fast on and bounces well I've been put off the beddy x by my current beddy cross A mate of mine is bringing on a 3/4 whippet 1/4 beddy at the moment, only 12 weeks so would be good to see that running when it's matured. I do want a bit of collie blood next time though. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Lurcher to lurcher, brains, toughness, strike and a bit of speed. Better to lose a rabbit today than have a head banger go toes up on those slopes. This little lass, 22 1/2 inches, has managed to reach 9 years of age despite her appearance: one of the best goal keepers I've had: a matter of putting herself in the right place having got to know the land over the years. She was in her prime in this photo, a bit more battered now! She might look delicate, but her brains are just great, and the land I run on is sometimes a lot more dangerous than your quarry. Go for a line of dogs that are doing the biz, rather than pondering over what exact breeds are in the mix. 12 Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 my dog gaz you seen where i run he does a job on there and i run moor land and links 3/4 whippet beddy fast on and bounces well I've been put off the beddy x by my current beddy cross A mate of mine is bringing on a 3/4 whippet 1/4 beddy at the moment, only 12 weeks so would be good to see that running when it's matured. I do want a bit of collie blood next time though. your running that beddy x on the wrong ground his to big gaz i can take him off you and give him the work i will wait for the phone call Quote Link to post
darbo 4,779 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 the collie lurcher cross saluki lurchers i used to keep ran varied terrain from arable,pasture,moorlad,fell land ,golf courses etc a dash of whippet in the mix does not go amiss.my best bitch was only 23. 1 Quote Link to post
darbo 4,779 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 some thing to ponder on put a tried and tested collie/whippet/grey type over your bitch. 2 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,812 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Lurcher x lurcher with a good dose of running dog through it for me Imo any dog will catch golf course rabbits if taught on them , I know a 21 1/2" half bull half grey that can catch them with ease 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 some thing to ponder on put a tried and tested collie/whippet/grey type over your bitch. That's exactly what I've been pondering all morning chief! Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 my dog gaz you seen where i run he does a job on there and i run moor land and links 3/4 whippet beddy fast on and bounces well I've been put off the beddy x by my current beddy cross A mate of mine is bringing on a 3/4 whippet 1/4 beddy at the moment, only 12 weeks so would be good to see that running when it's matured. I do want a bit of collie blood next time though. your running that beddy x on the wrong ground his to big gaz i can take him off you and give him the work i will wait for the phone call Your right about that. He is better on the bigger land for sure. His problem isn't his size. It's his nose. Obedience when he's on scent is zero. Fecked off for 12 mile the other day Yet take him on the local fields where no scent etc and he is as obedient as a collie. Quote Link to post
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