Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 So every dog hear who have said is grumpy when not working is a liability then be have lad dogs get pissed off and grmpy and will do things like this if they are grumpy Dogs that fight and cause damage such as what has happened in this case are a liability, unless you have a fondness for expensive vet bills and dead dogs. true , it comes down to kennel managment,? all dogs should have there (own) space.Any dog can kick off (back of a car etc ...) but when they know who the (boss) it might think twice about fighting.If it been my saluki x i would give the fecker a good hiding, it might have not had a go if it knew what would happen. Ive had all types, pits ,bullxs,colliexs etc no prob they know who boss of the kennels .Just beacuse it hot, no work ,dont mean jack shit, what about a kid got on its nerves ?? clamp down on them heavy big+small better to give them a good hiding than a vet bill + dead dog mine saw the back of my hand bird i don't abide by my dogs having a scrap but now its put right thats it mate true., you got come down heavy .As you know ive got Buck my 1x gsd x grey pup, he is massive and very strong pup. He is nearly 3in taller and 20lb heavier than Bryn.If they kicked off when Buck older, Buck would kill him no dout about it, Bryn struggles with him now in play. You can see what would happen if it got out of hand, but Buck knows now who boss, and will cower down from just by my mouth never mind my boot lol.One boss me . I have a dog hear that if you raised your hand too you would regret it as my brother found out a couple of days ago .....And it's still there?Yep and will be until the end of its days. If it wasnt justified i wouldve put a cartridge in it myself, Any dog if pushed far enough will bite in my opinion. As you said in PM this is a personal protection dog we are talking about. Not an unruly lurcher. 2 completely different situations mate. Quote Link to post
penny wise 136 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Thing is when you raze your hand to a saluki x you will never get that trust back shit happens. My bitch knows what shes done you don't have to raise your hand mate only your voice but you should do it from day one cos there has to be a boss and under no circumstances can it be the dog and the trouble with bitches is they hold a grudge and she may well try and do it in again Dont say that pal she might do it again. Looks like me and mi dog are hitting the road then. Because our lass would kill me lol. Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 So every dog hear who have said is grumpy when not working is a liability then be have lad dogs get pissed off and grmpy and will do things like this if they are grumpy Dogs that fight and cause damage such as what has happened in this case are a liability, unless you have a fondness for expensive vet bills and dead dogs. true , it comes down to kennel managment,? all dogs should have there (own) space.Any dog can kick off (back of a car etc ...) but when they know who the (boss) it might think twice about fighting.If it been my saluki x i would give the fecker a good hiding, it might have not had a go if it knew what would happen. Ive had all types, pits ,bullxs,colliexs etc no prob they know who boss of the kennels .Just beacuse it hot, no work ,dont mean jack shit, what about a kid got on its nerves ?? clamp down on them heavy big+small better to give them a good hiding than a vet bill + dead dog mine saw the back of my hand bird i don't abide by my dogs having a scrap but now its put right thats it mate true., you got come down heavy .As you know ive got Buck my 1x gsd x grey pup, he is massive and very strong pup. He is nearly 3in taller and 20lb heavier than Bryn.If they kicked off when Buck older, Buck would kill him no dout about it, Bryn struggles with him now in play. You can see what would happen if it got out of hand, but Buck knows now who boss, and will cower down from just by my mouth never mind my boot lol.One boss me . I have a dog hear that if you raised your hand too you would regret it as my brother found out a couple of days ago .....And it's still there?Yep and will be until the end of its days. If it wasnt justified i wouldve put a cartridge in it myself, Any dog if pushed far enough will bite in my opinion. As you said in PM this is a personal protection dog we are talking about. Not an unruly lurcher. 2 completely different situations mate. I still think your missing the point though mate. So if it was a lurcher and you raised your hand to it and it gave you a clear warning it will bite what would you do ? Quote Link to post
sikastag_1 689 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Haven't red all the comments, but if I had a dog that done that to another in the pack over absolutely nothing that would have went to the vets aswell absalute liability Quote Link to post
penny wise 136 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 i So every dog hear who have said is grumpy when not working is a liability then be have lad dogs get pissed off and grmpy and will do things like this if they are grumpy Dogs that fight and cause damage such as what has happened in this case are a liability, unless you have a fondness for expensive vet bills and dead dogs. true , it comes down to kennel managment,? all dogs should have there (own) space.Any dog can kick off (back of a car etc ...) but when they know who the (boss) it might think twice about fighting.If it been my saluki x i would give the fecker a good hiding, it might have not had a go if it knew what would happen. Ive had all types, pits ,bullxs,colliexs etc no prob they know who boss of the kennels .Just beacuse it hot, no work ,dont mean jack shit, what about a kid got on its nerves ?? clamp down on them heavy big+small better to give them a good hiding than a vet bill + dead dog mine saw the back of my hand bird i don't abide by my dogs having a scrap but now its put right thats it mate true., you got come down heavy .As you know ive got Buck my 1x gsd x grey pup, he is massive and very strong pup. He is nearly 3in taller and 20lb heavier than Bryn.If they kicked off when Buck older, Buck would kill him no dout about it, Bryn struggles with him now in play. You can see what would happen if it got out of hand, but Buck knows now who boss, and will cower down from just by my mouth never mind my boot lol.One boss me . I have a dog hear that if you raised your hand too you would regret it as my brother found out a couple of days ago .....And it's still there?Yep and will be until the end of its days. If it wasnt justified i wouldve put a cartridge in it myself, Any dog if pushed far enough will bite in my opinion. As you said in PM this is a personal protection dog we are talking about. Not an unruly lurcher. 2 completely different situations mate. I still think your missing the point though mate. So if it was a lurcher and you raised your hand to it and it gave you a clear warning it will bite what would you do ? Once your dog does that to you its because its lost its trust in you and your not guna get away with doing it a second time. If some one cracked us and tryed it again you would be ready for it and give um one back i would. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 If ANY dog of mine ever showed me its teeth or growled because I was chastising it for any reason then it would be taking a one way walk down the vets 1 Quote Link to post
lamp it luke 29 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 saluki's are a moody bunch of fuckers anyway pal every dog ive had that had a great deal of saluki blood it it wouldnt pen up with anythin! Quote Link to post
penny wise 136 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 I asked in my post if lads have had the same with there dogs getting the pisser on with not out in field or fens working. Not what they would do if it steps a foot out of line. Dont start cursing each other cheers for the replies and im keeping them away from each other. These two dogs are normally best of friends and some thing made my dog flip and i think its not running game. Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 i So every dog hear who have said is grumpy when not working is a liability then be have lad dogs get pissed off and grmpy and will do things like this if they are grumpy Dogs that fight and cause damage such as what has happened in this case are a liability, unless you have a fondness for expensive vet bills and dead dogs. true , it comes down to kennel managment,? all dogs should have there (own) space.Any dog can kick off (back of a car etc ...) but when they know who the (boss) it might think twice about fighting.If it been my saluki x i would give the fecker a good hiding, it might have not had a go if it knew what would happen. Ive had all types, pits ,bullxs,colliexs etc no prob they know who boss of the kennels .Just beacuse it hot, no work ,dont mean jack shit, what about a kid got on its nerves ?? clamp down on them heavy big+small better to give them a good hiding than a vet bill + dead dog mine saw the back of my hand bird i don't abide by my dogs having a scrap but now its put right thats it mate true., you got come down heavy .As you know ive got Buck my 1x gsd x grey pup, he is massive and very strong pup. He is nearly 3in taller and 20lb heavier than Bryn.If they kicked off when Buck older, Buck would kill him no dout about it, Bryn struggles with him now in play. You can see what would happen if it got out of hand, but Buck knows now who boss, and will cower down from just by my mouth never mind my boot lol.One boss me . I have a dog hear that if you raised your hand too you would regret it as my brother found out a couple of days ago .....And it's still there?Yep and will be until the end of its days. If it wasnt justified i wouldve put a cartridge in it myself, Any dog if pushed far enough will bite in my opinion. As you said in PM this is a personal protection dog we are talking about. Not an unruly lurcher. 2 completely different situations mate. I still think your missing the point though mate. So if it was a lurcher and you raised your hand to it and it gave you a clear warning it will bite what would you do ? Once your dog does that to you its because its lost its trust in you and your not guna get away with doing it a second time. If some one cracked us and tryed it again you would be ready for it and give um one back i would. Nope my dogs never done it to me mate. Ive seen alot of good dogs get funny over food including one of my lurchers when he was a pup. It was quickly sorted without kicking f**k out of him. Now if i walk past the bowl when hes eating he will move away.atb Quote Link to post
morton 5,369 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 We expect the mutts to hunt,chase and kill,these traits are in the majority of working lurchers and can manifest themselves at any given moment.The best trained and complacent of mutts are capable of the odd fit of aggressive behaviour.When a dog shows these traits on a more than regular occurence,then id finish it as its a liability in waiting,a dog that raises its teeth to the owner and cannot be corrected,is a cull. 2 Quote Link to post
penny wise 136 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 If ANY dog of mine ever showed me its teeth or growled because I was chastising it for any reason then it would be taking a one way walk down the vets These are working dogs fella bred to killso you cant kick it out of the dog. We want um this way and thats what weve got. Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well yesterday my saluki x bitch got hold of our lass pride and joy little lottie our jackie and what a mess she made of her poor little c**t. I think its because shes getting sick and grumpy that shes not out working. Does anybody elses running dogs get grumpy when season ends. no because there out walked twice a day........... ;)in the summer....... Quote Link to post
penny wise 136 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well yesterday my saluki x bitch got hold of our lass pride and joy little lottie our jackie and what a mess she made of her poor little c**t. I think its because shes getting sick and grumpy that shes not out working. Does anybody elses running dogs get grumpy when season ends. no because there out walked twice a day........... ;)in the summer....... l take mine out on my push rod like i said walking does f**k all for my dog pal five mile ten mile she still comes home bouncing. But when shes out with me on the push irion she comes home having had a good morning out. She loves it first mile shes pulling me on the bike. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 If ANY dog of mine ever showed me its teeth or growled because I was chastising it for any reason then it would be taking a one way walk down the vets These are working dogs fella bred to killso you cant kick it out of the dog. We want um this way and thats what weve got. Are you joking? So this dog is not "hard as nails" cuz he's good with people? In the field he is as game a dog as I've seen... If he showed his teeth to a member of my family he would be shot. End of. Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted June 2, 2013 Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 f**k me there's some maddies on here... Quote Link to post
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