paulus 26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Not really my field but I’d be inclined to second socks in the first instance as the symptoms you describe sound about right for pancreatitis, I take the bloods were negative for this? A couple of points, an enlarged pancreas and spleen can be linked, in pancreatitis the pancreas becomes enlarged and can, not uncommonly, press on the blood vessel that drains the spleen, this reduces out flow causing it over fill and swell. Also pancreatitis can be linked to gastritis. Lastly the physical symptoms of digestive problems and declination to eat would also fit. Did they check the calcium? You could discuss with your vet trying a diet for pancreatitis for a time to see if it eases symptoms. An alternative diagnosis are multitude and would include an on going gastrointestinal infection causing a more generalised inflammation, sometimes these types of bugs can go on for a long time but one would expect bloods to show indication of infection. Next would be an autoimmune type problem or a chronic inflammation of the gastric tract, something like an IBS or gastritis ? poisoning but again most would show changes in bloods in one form or another. Is the dogs abdo tender or does it have a slightly hunched stance when it has eaten? Is there jelly type stuff in the stools? Has it passed any blood or black stools? Recheck the urine, is there still blood, a secondary urine infection could muddy the waters. Sometimes the vet needs to go back and reconsider the possibilities when nothing shows and think about treating symptomology as well as test results. Hope it settles s. Hi Sandy Ok.... Jelly type crap in er the crap yes sometimes and not a lot but noticeable. Absolutely no pain or tenderness showing but this dog is a nob when it comes to pain as in the bugger doesn't seem to show it, but the lack of has been confirmed by umpteen vet visits complete with pokes prods. As mentioned he's on mild antis and omeprazol? (something for the stomach) this is for the mild Gastritis. Since Socks mentioned Pacreatitis I had a word with the vet and he doesn't think this is the issue but I have been feeding him a diet akin to one fed to a dog with it. No black poos just dark ones sometimes and not often. Lara His poos are soft but not liquid. His pee seems normal just maybe pees a little more than I would expect given the amount of water he drinks (I've been measuring everything everyday so I know where I'm at). Diabetes has been ruled out jelly like stools can be caused when the lining of the stomach becomes inflamed/irritated this can be caused by corn or wheat in its diet have you tried bland old rice and chicken? >>>>Firstly everybody thank you for your input I really appreciate it Ok Just got back from the vet's Pancreatitis has been totally ruled out. What apparently the problem is, is his intestine is inflamed this is having allsorts of side effects. The actual cause of the inflamation is yet to be confirmed but could of started with something as simple as a normal stomach upset. The results I got today were for the Nutrient absorption, stomach Bile and tbh a shed load of other things I can't remember, but the main outcome was that he is seriously low on Vit B12 and Folic Acid this points to piss poor absorption. It turns out that my vet has been in full consultation with 3 other vets regarding this problem and all three have seen the tests and ultrasound results and come to the same conclusion that it's his intestines. So now have a shitload of medication for him ranging from 60 days of Cortizone, to complex vitamins tablets you couldn't fit in labs arse they're that big (really pleased with the price of the meds less than 30€ for everything). His diet is as was mentioned before no wheat just rice and protein so I chose small fresh mackerel and has to stay like this until at least he starts to eat himself. long road ahead by the looks of it with no guarantees ATBShroomlockquote>that will be 3 pints and a bag of pork crunch please im glad they have diagnosed the reason at least they can get on and treat it now lockquote>Stomach and intestines different thing ya numpty In light of that how does a packet of SFA sound? I'm glad at least we have a diagnosis as Lara said long road ahead to a full recovery. The vet did said I should see a marked improvement within 5 days so fingers crossed lockquote>there both in the gut so 1 pint and a bag of dry roasted Would you settle for one peepee touch??? Trevor would oblige I'm sure its like lamping with simo all over again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,000 Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 LMFAO :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,000 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Just to update; It's been a long road and hard work He managed to drop his weight from 30-31Kg down to 23Kg that was two weeks ago then the meds seem to have taken effect and now I'm happy to say he's finally on the mend. Today his weight is up to 26.5Kg, an increase of 3.5Kg in two weeks so buzzing. Thank you to everyone who offered advice and thoughts much appreciated Atb Shroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Great news. So glad they managed to find out how to treat it, even if the actual cause was unknown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Just to update; It's been a long road and hard work He managed to drop his weight from 30-31Kg down to 23Kg that was two weeks ago then the meds seem to have taken effect and now I'm happy to say he's finally on the mend. Today his weight is up to 26.5Kg, an increase of 3.5Kg in two weeks so buzzing. Thank you to everyone who offered advice and thoughts much appreciated Atb Shroom Great news. So glad they managed to find out how to treat it, even if the actual cause was unknown. good news but a puzzler -- i`d hate not knowing ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,000 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 Great news. So glad they managed to find out how to treat it, even if the actual cause was unknown. The vet's have been doing some research and they came up with the possibility that certain vegetable proteins used in biscuits could be the cause. So at the moment his diet is fresh meat, rice and very expensive puppy biscuits fookin € a bag So the hope now is that this hasn't become a chronic problem, fingers crossed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pip1968 2,490 Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 glad to hear that mushroom did you the vets actually find out what the problem was,mind reading your other post it could be anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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