Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I got my Spaniel pup on Friday last week, he is 8 weeks old today, had his first jab yesterday. I took Monday and Tuesday off work to settle him in. Spent the weekend crate training him and getting him used to going outside to pee etc, then on Monday I started getting him used to the kennel and run, I put him out (with the lurcher in the kennel next to him) at 10 am and fetched them back in at 3pm. I went out to feed him at lunchtime. He cried for a short while but nothing much, he soon went into his box and only came out to pee, whine for a few seconds and then back in. Tuesday much the same. Today I got up with every intention of kenneling him for the day while I went to work but i had to leave at 8am and it was pitch black, foggy and really cold, so i fed them, let them out to empty and crated them both in the kitchen, then went home on my lunch to feed the pup and put them both in their kennels. I've heard a few people say that we are due a cold spell, will a young pup be OK kenneled in the day over the coming weeks? Baring in mind he was born inside and sleeps inside at night. Hes got a decent little kennel box and plenty of old blankets in there. I just think its better for a dog to be out in the fresh air in a kennel and run than stuck in a crate for 6-8 hours indoors. Cheers Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Can you not kennel them together ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Easy Gareth first night my dog pup came (8 weeks old) it got down to -5, packed his bedding area with blankets and he was warm as toast when i went to get him up in the morning If you still want added peace of mind get a heat pad mate. Edited January 9, 2013 by RubyTex 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spazzy paddy 127 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Easy Gareth first night my dog pup came (8 weeks old) it got down to -5, packed his bedding area with blankets and he was warm as toast when i went to get him up in the morning If you still want added peace of mind get a head pad mate. as above, am looking for a new pup but i will wait till spring then put him strait in kennels so when winter comes he would have got used to it gradualy and not a great shock to his system just make sure he has loads of bedding or a heat lamp. atb sp Edited January 9, 2013 by spazzy paddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest long-tail Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Can you not kennel them together ??? always handy if you can kennel a pup with an older dog, does seem to save on a lot of grief and they will settle lot quicker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 If your kennels are up to scratch then there shouldnt be an issue. As regards kenneling an 8 week old pup with an adult(whilst unsupervised)ie nobody home..then i'd be inclined not to..its so easy for a pup to wind up an older dog and only takes one snap to have a dead/crippled pup....jmo ..atb stabba 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 If your kennels are up to scratch then there shouldnt be an issue. As regards kenneling an 8 week old pup with an adult(whilst unsupervised)ie nobody home..then i'd be inclined not to..its so easy for a pup to wind up an older dog and only takes one snap to have a dead/crippled pup....jmo ..atb stabba If I had a dog that I thought would do that to an 8 week old pup it would be in the ground as it clearly isn't balanced right .... I always put a new pup in with an adult dog ... 8 weeks is very young for a pack animal to be expected to sleep on its own in a strange kennel ... Not good for its mental development IMO .... Pups need companionship comfort and an older dog to teach them limits, boundaries and correct behaviours ............ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fitchet 788 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 If your kennels are up to scratch then there shouldnt be an issue. As regards kenneling an 8 week old pup with an adult(whilst unsupervised)ie nobody home..then i'd be inclined not to..its so easy for a pup to wind up an older dog and only takes one snap to have a dead/crippled pup....jmo ..atb stabba If I had a dog that I thought would do that to an 8 week old pup it would be in the ground as it clearly isn't balanced right .... I always put a new pup in with an adult dog ... 8 weeks is very young for a pack animal to be expected to sleep on its own in a strange kennel ... Not good for its mental development IMO .... Pups need companionship comfort and an older dog to teach them limits, boundaries and correct behaviours ............ Couldnt agree more. My bull cross at 6 weeks old went straight in a warm kennel with a no nonsense terrier bitch. No scraps were ever had even when food was involved. And that terrier was a b*****d for laying into other dogs. Atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I could kennel them together yeh. But as already said I don't think it's very sensible to leave an 8 week pup with an adult. He drives her mad jumping on her and biting at her. She is very tolerant. Shares her bones with him. Shares toys with him etc. But surely after 8 hours of being pounced on and her ears and tail bit then she would be in her rights to snap at him? I felt better kennelling them side by side until he is a few months old. Cheers Gaz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I could kennel them together yeh. But as already said I don't think it's very sensible to leave an 8 week pup with an adult. He drives her mad jumping on her and biting at her. She is very tolerant. Shares her bones with him. Shares toys with him etc. But surely after 8 hours of being pounced on and her ears and tail bit then she would be in her rights to snap at him? I felt better kennelling them side by side until he is a few months old. Cheers Gaz its very rare that an adult dog will do any major harm to a pup, put in its place, yes, sometimes even draw blood, yes but major harm, no. pups have an inbuilt defense they squeel like pigs this is the ultimate submision in dog talk. ive always chucked pups in with both older dogs and bitches and had no major issues infact the last one is still in with his sire over 5 years later Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Folks: don't forget that this is an adult bitch he has bought in, and there had been problems with her and his terrier. I quite understand why he wouldn't want to risk it. Get a heat pad, plenty of bedding, toys, things to chew. No, its not ideal, but better than coming home to a dead or damaged pup. I've had to do it in the past and the pup grew up just fine: plenty of quality fun and games when your'e home. Sensible pup soon learns the routine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I could kennel them together yeh. But as already said I don't think it's very sensible to leave an 8 week pup with an adult. He drives her mad jumping on her and biting at her. She is very tolerant. Shares her bones with him. Shares toys with him etc. But surely after 8 hours of being pounced on and her ears and tail bit then she would be in her rights to snap at him? I felt better kennelling them side by side until he is a few months old. Cheers Gaz its very rare that an adult dog will do any major harm to a pup, put in its place, yes, sometimes even draw blood, yes but major harm, no. pups have an inbuilt defense they squeel like pigs this is the ultimate submision in dog talk. ive always chucked pups in with both older dogs and bitches and had no major issues infact the last one is still in with his sire over 5 years later I know what your saying Paulus and you are right that the pup does squeal like a pig, she only has to have a little growl and tap him with her paw and he runs off squealing. He soon comes running back though. I just didnt want to take the risk, my terrier went one step too far and got a good shaking for her troubles, I wouldn't want the same to happen to this pup. Quite often in the house the bitch will tolerate him for so long and then just want to get away from him, I will put a video up in a minute to show what I mean. In a kennel I fear that he would just keep pestering and if she snapped too far even by accident he could be dead. I would sooner just hang on a few weeks until he has calmed down and maybe try to kennel them together then. But I'm more than happy to keep them separate after the incident with lurcher and terrier last time. http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n639/gaz_daniel/A8C81963-58A2-44D0-BEC1-D2973C854ED2-368-000000C43A2FAF9D.mp4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Folks: don't forget that this is an adult bitch he has bought in, and there had been problems with her and his terrier. I quite understand why he wouldn't want to risk it. Get a heat pad, plenty of bedding, toys, things to chew. No, its not ideal, but better than coming home to a dead or damaged pup. I've had to do it in the past and the pup grew up just fine: plenty of quality fun and games when your'e home. Sensible pup soon learns the routine. Cheers skycat. As you know I don't work long hours and I'm only 10 mins from home so go home for my lunch for an hour or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest long-tail Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Folks: don't forget that this is an adult bitch he has bought in, and there had been problems with her and his terrier. I quite understand why he wouldn't want to risk it. Get a heat pad, plenty of bedding, toys, things to chew. No, its not ideal, but better than coming home to a dead or damaged pup. I've had to do it in the past and the pup grew up just fine: plenty of quality fun and games when your'e home. Sensible pup soon learns the routine. Cheers skycat. As you know I don't work long hours and I'm only 10 mins from home so go home for my lunch for an hour or so. maybe you could try them kenneled for short period of times but give the older bitch a bit height to sleep on that way can get up out of reach of the pup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 That's not a bad idea actually mate but my current set up doesn't allow for me to do this. Good idea for future though Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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