Born Hunter 17,843 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Just looking to start a bit of discussion on what I consider a touchy subject......... So, what do you do when the land on your doorstep you have walked all your life starts getting hammered by lads driving in from else where especially week in week out starts causing unwanted attention from the authorities? It's not hard to understand why........... dead hares left where they were killed, lads in 3s 4s & 5s lined out walking the fields bold as ya like. Unfortunately discretion doesn't seem to enter their minds........ Trouble is, those of us that try to go about things with a bit of discretion mostly on our own just walking the dogs locally not having to worry incase something rises and there's a bit of an accident suddenly find police cars patrolling the lanes with landowners/locals now phoning the police as soon as they see you. Unmarked cars with plain clothed officers start actively patrolling your area looking for anybody with a lurcher and dirt on their boots. Is it really fair to blame the lads dogging your local spots relentlesly with seemingly no care for discretion? Shitting on your doorstep? This isn't a dig at the coursing lot. Just a philisophical question. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 if your known locally then there should be no association from the locals Quote Link to post
kyle mckay 2 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 going a little off track here but i dont like the idea of lads killing hares and leaving them in the field if youre gonna kill it at least take it home and if you dont want to eat it im sure the dog would be more than happy Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 going a little off track here but i dont like the idea of lads killing hares and leaving them in the field if youre gonna kill it at least take it home and if you dont want to eat it im sure the dog would be more than happy problem is hypothetically (as hares are now off the quarry list in most of great britian) if you were caught with one and a dog you would be in deep do dar Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,843 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 if your known locally then there should be no association from the locals That's not really the problem though Paulus, the problem is the local area is now patrolled by plain clothed officers in unmarked cars looking for lads with lurchers. The local landowners know me (I walk escaped stock back in and let them know of broken fences etc), most of the locals I don't want to know and keep myself to myself. Do you dare let the dog off the lead incase a hare pops up and you are seen due to the massively increased police presence? Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 if your known locally then there should be no association from the locals That's not really the problem though Paulus, the problem is the local area is now patrolled by plain clothed officers in unmarked cars looking for lads with lurchers. The local landowners know me (I walk escaped stock back in and let them know of broken fences etc), most of the locals I don't want to know and keep myself to myself. Do you dare let the dog off the lead incase a hare pops up and you are seen due to the massively increased police presence? accidents happen mate and the hunting act allows for it Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,843 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 going a little off track here but i dont like the idea of lads killing hares and leaving them in the field if youre gonna kill it at least take it home and if you dont want to eat it im sure the dog would be more than happy I can accept and understand why it's done. You get caught with a dead hare and a lurcher and you might as well cuff ya self. But ffs at least make an effort to hide the evidence, don't just leave it by a public footpath or in the middle of a stubble field! Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Its the same local to me tbh...youngsters with their dogs trampling everywhere with the attitude of "fcuk you". Ive walked this local land to exercise the dogs 25+years and this past 2 years have never seen it so bad. Any night of the week is like Blackpool illuminations with lamps flashing about. Then through the day full of em with either coursing dogs or bull x's. Im glad i travel to do me lamping. 1 Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,843 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 accidents happen mate and the hunting act allows for it Very true, but do you really think that "I was just walking the dog and a hare got up infront of it officer" is gonna be accepted as an excuse? An excuse that wouldn't be at all needed if others that run your local spots had a bit more discretion and gave it a couple of weeks between runs to save attracting the attention of 'operation gallileo'. Plain clothed officers in unmarked cars FFS, anybody would think they were part of an anti terrorism sting! Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Its the same local to me tbh...youngsters with their dogs trampling everywhere with the attitude of "fcuk you". Ive walked this local land to exercise the dogs 25+years and this past 2 years have never seen it so bad. Any night of the week is like Blackpool illuminations with lamps flashing about. Then through the day full of em with either coursing dogs or bull x's. Im glad i travel to do me lamping. youve seen it here mate the only people i meet at night is my lads stumbling home pissed Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 accidents happen mate and the hunting act allows for it Very true, but do you really think that "I was just walking the dog and a hare got up infront of it officer" is gonna be accepted as an excuse? An excuse that wouldn't be at all needed if others that run your local spots had a bit more discretion and gave it a couple of weeks between runs to save attracting the attention of 'operation gallileo'. Plain clothed officers in unmarked cars FFS, anybody would think they were part of an anti terrorism sting! could they prove otherwise Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,843 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Its the same local to me tbh...youngsters with their dogs trampling everywhere with the attitude of "fcuk you". Ive walked this local land to exercise the dogs 25+years and this past 2 years have never seen it so bad. Any night of the week is like Blackpool illuminations with lamps flashing about. Then through the day full of em with either coursing dogs or bull x's. Im glad i travel to do me lamping. So you sorta know what it feels like then stabba? I kinda feel a c**t or a hypicrit for thinking these lads are wankers but they just don't give a shit, I used to just turn the other way and stay out of their way not wanting to be seen anywhere near them but now they are attracting this shit it pisses me off. I'm not a grass and basically can't do anything but still doesn't stop me feeling like somebody else is shitting on my doorstep. Just wondered if others can relate to this? Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,843 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 accidents happen mate and the hunting act allows for it Very true, but do you really think that "I was just walking the dog and a hare got up infront of it officer" is gonna be accepted as an excuse? An excuse that wouldn't be at all needed if others that run your local spots had a bit more discretion and gave it a couple of weeks between runs to save attracting the attention of 'operation gallileo'. Plain clothed officers in unmarked cars FFS, anybody would think they were part of an anti terrorism sting! could they prove otherwise I'm not gonna be the test case! Quote Link to post
Guest long-tail Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Its the same local to me tbh...youngsters with their dogs trampling everywhere with the attitude of "fcuk you". Ive walked this local land to exercise the dogs 25+years and this past 2 years have never seen it so bad. Any night of the week is like Blackpool illuminations with lamps flashing about. Then through the day full of em with either coursing dogs or bull x's. Im glad i travel to do me lamping. So you sorta know what it feels like then stabba? I kinda feel a c**t or a hypicrit for thinking these lads are wankers but they just don't give a shit, I used to just turn the other way and stay out of their way not wanting to be seen anywhere near them but now they are attracting this shit it pisses me off. I'm not a grass and basically can't do anything but still doesn't stop me feeling like somebody else is shitting on my doorstep. Just wondered if others can relate to this? exactly what iv always done and will continue to do so,better off out of it and not get involved cheers Edited January 5, 2013 by long-tail 1 Quote Link to post
dvdskv 30 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 going a little off track here but i dont like the idea of lads killing hares and leaving them in the field if youre gonna kill it at least take it home and if you dont want to eat it im sure the dog would be more than happy problem is hypothetically (as hares are now off the quarry list in most of great britian) if you were caught with one and a dog you would be in deep do dar In my opinion if your gonna race them and you do get a kill or two you should at least leave them somewhere out of the way for a pick up the next day with no dog or leave them alone 3 Quote Link to post
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