paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Off google lol "In addition to providing energy, carbs maintain the health of the thyroid, liver, heart, brain and nerve tissue/muscle tissue in canines.They regulate how much starch and fat will be broken down and utilized. Once in the digestive tract and assimilated, they are stored in the liver in the form of glycogen, which controls energy balance. Low carb intake may cause cardiac symptoms and angina. The central nervous system requires carbohydrates for proper functioning as does the brain. The brain can't store glucose and is therefore dependent on the minimum supply of glucose from the blood. With insufficent carbs in the diet, protein and fat are converted to energy, weakening the immune system and preventing the body from building enough antibodies to fight disease. Poor hair growth and constant shedding are symptoms of carbohydrate deficiency. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Dogs use carbs, fat, protein just the same as we do, same chemical reactions, enzymes etc, it's all based on stuff inherited from ancestors millions of years ago. Are you sure about this? Ive always been led to believe that they dont need carbs and they use fat for main energy source, completely opposite to us. Cheers Gaz You've had it now... Prepare for an essay! Im ready I dont mind sandymeres essays and im always willing to learn. Ive read on LOADS of occasions that they dont need carbs, so if they do, and i arent feeding them, then i will start Gaz The only one that will be needing carbs... is you... your going to need all the energy you can get to get you through what you are about to read... that and coffee! Joking aside though some of the stuff I have read that he has put up has been interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack2o 45 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 dont know if they need it or not and dont feed them much of it i just like to give them a variety and a bit of a filler if they work hard and they get mostly some kind of meat or fish so just thought it would balance it up a bit knew a greyhound racer who fed a bit of pasta or brown bread to put a bit of weight on.im not that fussy as long as they at the right weight and work alright on it it all comes out the other end if there body dont use it but they seem to like it and there shits look ok its only now and again wouldnt feed it every day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Off google lol "In addition to providing energy, carbs maintain the health of the thyroid, liver, heart, brain and nerve tissue/muscle tissue in canines.They regulate how much starch and fat will be broken down and utilized. Once in the digestive tract and assimilated, they are stored in the liver in the form of glycogen, which controls energy balance. Low carb intake may cause cardiac symptoms and angina. The central nervous system requires carbohydrates for proper functioning as does the brain. The brain can't store glucose and is therefore dependent on the minimum supply of glucose from the blood. With insufficent carbs in the diet, protein and fat are converted to energy, weakening the immune system and preventing the body from building enough antibodies to fight disease. Poor hair growth and constant shedding are symptoms of carbohydrate deficiency. Read my reply on the other post, you said "shows what you know". Is everything that you "know" from off google and the internet? I can google too, but that doesnt help us learn, it just lets us believe what someone else has written. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Anova thing Gareth why does pasta help em hold weight??????? I no it does but why ?????? Maybe the fact the dog aint feeding on itself it feeding on the carbs so can use wat protein and fat is meant 4. Just my take wat u think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Anova thing Gareth why does pasta help em hold weight??????? I no it does but why ?????? Maybe the fact the dog aint feeding on itself it feeding on the carbs so can use wat protein and fat is meant 4. Just my take wat u think I assumed because you are adding extra calories into the diet. I arent a smart arse or know-it-all mate, just wanna do the best by my dogs without feeding commercial dry food. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I Neva use dry food mate, I just use barf but added carbs and fish oil mate seems to do me well and they can be out all day and still lamp at nite and if I really wanted to could hav em back out the next day as fresh as a Daisey lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I aint no smart ass either mate can barley read or [bANNED TEXT] but as u said with dogs all about experience Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I Neva use dry food mate, I just use barf but added carbs and fish oil mate seems to do me well and they can be out all day and still lamp at nite and if I really wanted to could hav em back out the next day as fresh as a Daisey lol Do you feed carbs daily? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Sorry short on time for a proper answer so follow links for more info. Both dogs and humans use the same processes to utilise food, both can do fine with or without carbs as they can convert fat/protein into carbs but as its an uneccessary process with waste prodects etc why not just give then carbs in the first place. Secondly as direct carbs are more quickly available to re stock reserves it would seem sensible to supply them directly. Science minded can look here and note that almost all animals do it in a similar way. http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Metabolism There an article here, clic om dog pic to read, http://www.purinavets.eu/home/research/pdf.htm?id=167 although produced by a pet food manufacture is based on sound science. Basically carbs likely give faster recovery and maintain performance when used sensibly. Regards s Edited December 17, 2012 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 in the past ive feed barf and complete mix, barf only and now a mixture of raw meat, pasta, tomatoes and a sprinkle of sf50 a couple of times a week along with lamb racks and backs every otherday. all i can say is the dogs looked healthy on all 3 diets but i preffer the one i feed now and have had very few if any diet related problems since feeding it, but the best rule is feed whats best for you and the dogs whatever diet that may be, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Thanks Sandy and Paulus. I will start feeding a handful of pasta or a slice of brown bread with the evening meal. Paulus, do you feed tin tomatoes? And whats the reason behind feeding tomatoes specifically? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Potasium in tomatoes I think mate stop cramp, the old thing used to be tin of sardines or makrel in tomato juice. Like tennis players eating a bannana threw game bit sugar and potasium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Ah ok, I feed mackeral in tomatoes at least once a week with a few eggs. Just seen your PM Paul, will read and reply now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulsmithy83 567 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Off google lol "In addition to providing energy, carbs maintain the health of the thyroid, liver, heart, brain and nerve tissue/muscle tissue in canines.They regulate how much starch and fat will be broken down and utilized. Once in the digestive tract and assimilated, they are stored in the liver in the form of glycogen, which controls energy balance. Low carb intake may cause cardiac symptoms and angina. The central nervous system requires carbohydrates for proper functioning as does the brain. The brain can't store glucose and is therefore dependent on the minimum supply of glucose from the blood. With insufficent carbs in the diet, protein and fat are converted to energy, weakening the immune system and preventing the body from building enough antibodies to fight disease. Poor hair growth and constant shedding are symptoms of carbohydrate deficiency. Read my reply on the other post, you said "shows what you know". Is everything that you "know" from off google and the internet? I can google too, but that doesnt help us learn, it just lets us believe what someone else has written. No mate I dont use google for everything but it explains it better then I ever could so copied it off there. I could of write a hole load on it but as you can tell I aint the best at writing or typing or wat ever just easier for me. Ur digging at me but all along I was [bANNED TEXT] how that work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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