mr t 1 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Which is the best way to start a pup on the lamp Quote Link to post
suffolkpoacher 219 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Take it out on a rough night get right on a squatter and slip the dog,best of luck Quote Link to post
Chid 6,738 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 wouldnt even think of entering it to the lamp till you have its basic training sorted after thats done then stock breaking , when dog is 100% round stock and is trained to a reasonable standard do the above 1 Quote Link to post
suffolkpoacher 219 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 wouldnt even think of entering it to the lamp till you have its basic training sorted after thats done then stock breaking , when dog is 100% round stock and is trained to a reasonable standard do the above He asked how to start on lamp not what training is required first lol Quote Link to post
jcm 2,327 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everyone says stock breaking etc a lot of people don't have cattle on there land Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everyone says stock breaking etc a lot of people don't have cattle on there land Cattle sheep pigs chickens even pheasants. What would you say to someone who took you on there land and your dog went and killed a sheep ? Or flushed all the pheasants out of a wood on shooting land ? 1 Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everyone says stock breaking etc a lot of people don't have cattle on there land Cattle sheep pigs chickens even pheasants. What would you say to someone who took you on there land and your dog went and killed a sheep ? Or flushed all the pheasants out of a wood on shooting land ? If my dog flushed all the pheasents out the wood, and DIDENT catch one.............. well, i would not be a happy chappy......... one of the main things a lurcher should do IMO is catch fur AND feather. 1 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,738 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 wouldnt even think of entering it to the lamp till you have its basic training sorted after thats done then stock breaking , when dog is 100% round stock and is trained to a reasonable standard do the above He asked how to start on lamp not what training is required first lol but on another post he cant even get it walking right on a lead Quote Link to post
Chid 6,738 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everyone says stock breaking etc a lot of people don't have cattle on there land most of the land i lamp is cattle land but i still break my dogs to sheep even if that means going out of my way to do , there is no reason to have a dog not broke to livestock , infact to me it should be done with all dogs wether they are hunters or not 3 Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everyone says stock breaking etc a lot of people don't have cattle on there land Cattle sheep pigs chickens even pheasants. What would you say to someone who took you on there land and your dog went and killed a sheep ? Or flushed all the pheasants out of a wood on shooting land ? If my dog flushed all the pheasents out the wood, and DIDENT catch one.............. well, i would not be a happy chappy......... one of the main things a lurcher should do IMO is catch fur AND feather. Agree but your dog should know when its acceptable and when its not. If im on shooting land ferreting and the keeper come to see how im getting on and my dog catches a bird infront of him bye bye permission .... Quote Link to post
R.A.W 1,987 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 wouldnt even think of entering it to the lamp till you have its basic training sorted after thats done then stock breaking , when dog is 100% round stock and is trained to a reasonable standard do the above as chid said then i start to take it out with older dogs. i don't even slip the pup first few times out. find a sitter and wait to be the proudest or most dissapointed man alive. 1 Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everyone says stock breaking etc a lot of people don't have cattle on there land Cattle sheep pigs chickens even pheasants. What would you say to someone who took you on there land and your dog went and killed a sheep ? Or flushed all the pheasants out of a wood on shooting land ? If my dog flushed all the pheasents out the wood, and DIDENT catch one.............. well, i would not be a happy chappy......... one of the main things a lurcher should do IMO is catch fur AND feather. Agree but your dog should know when its acceptable and when its not. If im on shooting land ferreting and the keeper come to see how im getting on and my dog catches a bird infront of him bye bye permission .... Quote Link to post
patterdalejoel 669 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 wouldnt even think of entering it to the lamp till you have its basic training sorted after thats done then stock breaking , when dog is 100% round stock and is trained to a reasonable standard do the above wouldnt you say stock breaking first? Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Everyone says stock breaking etc a lot of people don't have cattle on there land Cattle sheep pigs chickens even pheasants. What would you say to someone who took you on there land and your dog went and killed a sheep ? Or flushed all the pheasants out of a wood on shooting land ? If my dog flushed all the pheasents out the wood, and DIDENT catch one.............. well, i would not be a happy chappy......... one of the main things a lurcher should do IMO is catch fur AND feather. Agree but your dog should know when its acceptable and when its not. If im on shooting land ferreting and the keeper come to see how im getting on and my dog catches a bird infront of him bye bye permission .... Might be ok for some mate but just remember them birds are a keepers livelyhood. You flushing them birds from woods and covercrop is just losing them money. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Once all of the previously mentioned stuff is done. In my opinion i'd try something like this - First things first, you need to get it spotting on the lamp, walk up some bunnys, even if its not going to be a run, get the dog into the idea that the spot, lights up stuff he wants to see. Then find the perfect bunny, sat out on a good windy, drizzly night, away from home, ideally in a well fenced field. Walk up on it, get between it and home, hold the spot on it, pull the dogs head up if you have to, hiss, whatever it takes to get the dog fixed on the rabbit, walk up as close as you can, and when (if) it starts to run, let go of the slip and keep the spot on the bunny, if it gets close to the fence (or hedge) shake / flicker the beam, by rocking / shaking the lamp. The rest is up to the dog Quote Link to post
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