collie x terrier for bushin??

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

Collie x beddie/whippet. She's a cracking bushing dog, great nose a mental drive. She also has enough pace out of the blocks to nab a few when the burst out into the open. But she does rob the catch off the bigger dogs, but always retrives!

[Born Hunter 17,909]

Personally I would go Springer x Fell. But tbh I think any terrier, collie or spaniel mix would suit, as long as the parents are of the right stuff. Collies aren't quite as mad when hunting as a spaniel but don't lack much in nose or drive either. Just gonna have to chance it reddawn.....

 

When my terrier gets on a bit I'm going down a similar route. Make for a stronger animal on heavier ground and add a bit of nose. I wouldn't be keen on much if any hound blood because for bushing, beating and ferreting etc a terrier or spaniels nose is enough. And to get another straight terrier would be a bit of a waste because there are so few foxes to ground, far more bushing/vermin control available, earthwork is a rarity.

[Lab 10,979]

Cant see passed a springer or a cocker but if you really want a cross a cocker x would be amazing, smaller the better so a working JRT would be a great wee dog. Theres no need for length of leg as its purely a busher your after....

[Born Hunter 17,909]

Cant see passed a springer or a cocker but if you really want a cross a cocker x would be amazing, smaller the better so a working JRT would be a great wee dog. Theres no need for length of leg as its purely a busher your after....

 

For what it's worth I agree with you, spaniel terrier would be my preference. But do you not think the collie would make for a slightly less mad hunter? I think they would ultimately be as usefull as each other but I can see how a collie terrier would suit a different person to a spaniel terrier.

[Lab 10,979]

Cant see passed a springer or a cocker but if you really want a cross a cocker x would be amazing, smaller the better so a working JRT would be a great wee dog. Theres no need for length of leg as its purely a busher your after....

 

For what it's worth I agree with you, spaniel terrier would be my preference. But do you not think the collie would make for a slightly less mad hunter? I think they would ultimately be as usefull as each other but I can see how a collie terrier would suit a different person to a spaniel terrier.

Oh theres no doubt that if the pup took more to the collie side then it would be alot steadier....it may also be quite big possibly. I'd be worried that the collie brains would shine through to much and they would get cute in trying to catch the game instead of flushing it......just an opinion that cause ive never seen the cross or see it work....

[skycat 6,174]

I really like the look of that little Collie/Beddie/Whippet: you can practically see the life bubbling in her eyes, even in a photo.

Having had a selection of bushing type dogs, though admittedly never with any Spaniel in them, I now believe that any type of dog with real drive, a great nose, and not too big, will do the job. I had a small smooth coated lurcher, 22", which could get into any bramble, could wind fox from a long way off, caught no end of rabbits deep in cover, and pushed out what she didn't catch. I now have a 24" lurcher, one of the Airedale lurchers, who is just the same: the way she gets into cover is unreal: I think that drive, determination and nose is the key factor, no matter what the breeds in the mix. Though in a slightly bigger dog, a smooth coat and a tough skin do best: I've seen my rough coated dogs, both terriers and lurchers, get snarled up in brambles a lot.

 

Finding the ideal type will depend a lot on luck, and your own preference when it comes to temperament and working style.

[weasle 1,119]

I still wouldnt see past a spanielx terrier.Wouldnt want hound blood.Although i do like the look of teckeles i would say the novelty could were of when its doing laps of forestrys. I would be concerened a collie x might start thinking to much.

[reddawn 2,173]

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any more thoughts on this anybody???