locator collars and terriers

[patterdaleboy 32]

I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep..

i remember one dig very well we were on a farm one saturday afternoon about 4 o clock in september we were using my friends lakeland a show dog that dident make the grade but the best lakeland i have seen on a fox we came to a set with a good sent of fox the dog was mad to get off we had a look around and decided to let the dog in after about 30 seconds he started to work but about 25 feet out we could just hear him at the mouth of the hole witch was down a bank about 4 or 5 foot but we couldent hear a thing out in the field we bared and sounded and then tried to call the dog out but no joy we left at 8 :30 or so because it was pitch black and my friend left his coat at the mouth of the hole witch we had done before and the dog was lying on it the next day. we came back the next morning there was no sign of the dog and we couldent hear him i though he had left but my friend assured me he would be still there we took a guess where he would be going from the direction of his bark the day before and started to dig . 2ft of top soil 3ft or so of blue clay and then hard grevel stone you name it it was there 12 foot later and still no sound i was standing having a rest when i heard a very faint sound to my right side about 3 ft from the bottom i started to bar in and found the dog when i dug in to him he was stuck he had killed a fox and and pushed past it and killed another and he couldent get back .another hour or two and he would have been dead we had to carry him back to the car.i never went back to that until about 10 years ago my son was going down one day and asked me if i wanted to go and i said no and you are mad if you go he said they couldent be that bad.there were 4 of them 16 ft locator collar and all they got a nice 6 hour dig to them selves in the pouring rain, f--k i laughed.atb coverdogs

[patterdaleboy 32]

I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep..

i remember one dig very well we were on a farm one saturday afternoon about 4 o clock in september we were using my friends lakeland a show dog that dident make the grade but the best lakeland i have seen on a fox we came to a set with a good sent of fox the dog was mad to get off we had a look around and decided to let the dog in after about 30 seconds he started to work but about 25 feet out we could just hear him at the mouth of the hole witch was down a bank about 4 or 5 foot but we couldent hear a thing out in the field we bared and sounded and then tried to call the dog out but no joy we left at 8 :30 or so because it was pitch black and my friend left his coat at the mouth of the hole witch we had done before and the dog was lying on it the next day. we came back the next morning there was no sign of the dog and we couldent hear him i though he had left but my friend assured me he would be still there we took a guess where he would be going from the direction of his bark the day before and started to dig . 2ft of top soil 3ft or so of blue clay and then hard grevel stone you name it it was there 12 foot later and still no sound i was standing having a rest when i heard a very faint sound to my right side about 3 ft from the bottom i started to bar in and found the dog when i dug in to him he was stuck he had killed a fox and and pushed past it and killed another and he couldent get back .another hour or two and he would have been dead we had to carry him back to the car.i never went back to that until about 10 years ago my son was going down one day and asked me if i wanted to go and i said no and you are mad if you go he said they couldent be that bad.there were 4 of them 16 ft locator collar and all they got a nice 6 hour dig to them selves in the pouring rain, f--k i laughed.atb coverdogs

[patterdaleboy 32]

I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep..

i remember one dig very well we were on a farm one saturday afternoon about 4 o clock in september we were using my friends lakeland a show dog that dident make the grade but the best lakeland i have seen on a fox we came to a set with a good sent of fox the dog was mad to get off we had a look around and decided to let the dog in after about 30 seconds he started to work but about 25 feet out we could just hear him at the mouth of the hole witch was down a bank about 4 or 5 foot but we couldent hear a thing out in the field we bared and sounded and then tried to call the dog out but no joy we left at 8 :30 or so because it was pitch black and my friend left his coat at the mouth of the hole witch we had done before and the dog was lying on it the next day. we came back the next morning there was no sign of the dog and we couldent hear him i though he had left but my friend assured me he would be still there we took a guess where he would be going from the direction of his bark the day before and started to dig . 2ft of top soil 3ft or so of blue clay and then hard grevel stone you name it it was there 12 foot later and still no sound i was standing having a rest when i heard a very faint sound to my right side about 3 ft from the bottom i started to bar in and found the dog when i dug in to him he was stuck he had killed a fox and and pushed past it and killed another and he couldent get back .another hour or two and he would have been dead we had to carry him back to the car.i never went back to that until about 10 years ago my son was going down one day and asked me if i wanted to go and i said no and you are mad if you go he said they couldent be that bad.there were 4 of them 16 ft locator collar and all they got a nice 6 hour dig to them selves in the pouring rain, f--k i laughed.atb coverdogs

and u said that dident male the grade fur fuk sake how high a grade u got set.

[coverdogs 888]

I have heard of some big dig's over the year's and some being 15ft+ ...how would the old school no locator kind of guy locate such a deep terrier..surely you would not be able to hear a peep out of the terrier that deep..

i remember one dig very well we were on a farm one saturday afternoon about 4 o clock in september we were using my friends lakeland a show dog that dident make the grade but the best lakeland i have seen on a fox we came to a set with a good sent of fox the dog was mad to get off we had a look around and decided to let the dog in after about 30 seconds he started to work but about 25 feet out we could just hear him at the mouth of the hole witch was down a bank about 4 or 5 foot but we couldent hear a thing out in the field we bared and sounded and then tried to call the dog out but no joy we left at 8 :30 or so because it was pitch black and my friend left his coat at the mouth of the hole witch we had done before and the dog was lying on it the next day. we came back the next morning there was no sign of the dog and we couldent hear him i though he had left but my friend assured me he would be still there we took a guess where he would be going from the direction of his bark the day before and started to dig . 2ft of top soil 3ft or so of blue clay and then hard grevel stone you name it it was there 12 foot later and still no sound i was standing having a rest when i heard a very faint sound to my right side about 3 ft from the bottom i started to bar in and found the dog when i dug in to him he was stuck he had killed a fox and and pushed past it and killed another and he couldent get back .another hour or two and he would have been dead we had to carry him back to the car.i never went back to that until about 10 years ago my son was going down one day and asked me if i wanted to go and i said no and you are mad if you go he said they couldent be that bad.there were 4 of them 16 ft locator collar and all they got a nice 6 hour dig to them selves in the pouring rain, f--k i laughed.atb coverdogs

and u said that dident male the grade fur fuk sake how high a grade u got set.

hello patterdaleboy what i was saying was it dident make the grade as a show dog he was a kc registered dog i wonder how many kc reg.dogs would work now

[Mosby 355]

Ah. I was confused on that one too cover dog. As for a high grade... There are times where you'll have a dog work like a champ for a season and then just stop. Those don't make the grade no matter how good they had been at one time or another. It is easy to find a dog that will do it every now and then well. What is hard to find is a dog that never stops doing it well.

[urbandigger 1]

not useing a locator intentionaly is madness.its like saying ill run down the m6 rather than drive.back in the day the old boys would have gave there right arm for one

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

i agree with urdan digger-but its always handy to have or know someone who can dig to a dog without one-sometimes technology will let you down.atb

[patterdaleboy 32]

Aha I see not a looker but a good grafyer