Cycling today - Mens Road Race

[SINDASOX 256]

Did anyone see the Mens Road Race today where the Belgium rider Philippe Gilbert was about 60 seconds in front of the main chasing group, they were chasing him hard but couldn't close the gap, there was 34km to go and the chasing pack were 1 minute behind, i watched the race from 12.30 to the finish but didn't see where Gilbert was caught by the others, anyone else notice this....????....could it have been where they were switching from BBC3 to BBC1....the BBC presenters also apologized at the end for not giving out time checks between the leader and the chasing group.

 

 

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[cragman 2,843]

I saw him get swallowed up by the chasing group, I think he got on the back of that group and had a lift to the finish as they say. No co-operation by other teams today for GB. They would rather loose and take no part than take Cav to the finish for a whooping. Four men is never enough over that distance

[paulus 26]

fook knows i always thought the best peddler won

[SINDASOX 256]

I saw him get swallowed up by the chasing group

 

 

Can you remember how many Km were left when he was caught.

 

 

SINDASOX

[cragman 2,843]

'Fraid not fella. Once he realised he was going to get caught by the chasers, he sat up and then got on the back of the bunch. Not that far from the finish...20-25 km?

[Lab 10,979]

I saw him get swallowed up by the chasing group, I think he got on the back of that group and had a lift to the finish as they say. No co-operation by other teams today for GB. They would rather loose and take no part than take Cav to the finish for a whooping. Four men is never enough over that distance

Now you sound like someone who knows what there talking about on cycling mate so can you explain to me by what you mean by "Four men is never enough over that distance"?? Surely Cavendish knows how fast he complete that course, when he has to push it and so forth. Isn't it just similar to a Marathon runner? .....

[Caprelous 217]

I saw him get swallowed up by the chasing group, I think he got on the back of that group and had a lift to the finish as they say. No co-operation by other teams today for GB. They would rather loose and take no part than take Cav to the finish for a whooping. Four men is never enough over that distance

Now you sound like someone who knows what there talking about on cycling mate so can you explain to me by what you mean by "Four men is never enough over that distance"?? Surely Cavendish knows how fast he complete that course, when he has to push it and so forth. Isn't it just similar to a Marathon runner? .....

I saw him get swallowed up by the chasing group, I think he got on the back of that group and had a lift to the finish as they say. No co-operation by other teams today for GB. They would rather loose and take no part than take Cav to the finish for a whooping. Four men is never enough over that distance

Now you sound like someone who knows what there talking about on cycling mate so can you explain to me by what you mean by "Four men is never enough over that distance"?? Surely Cavendish knows how fast he complete that course, when he has to push it and so forth. Isn't it just similar to a Marathon runner? .....

 

I agree with your comment on this one mate.

Lets face it its all about the first one over the line ,no good crying after the event that the tactics they employed by containing a group and swallowing up the breakaway leaders didnt work.

 

Those that broke away and they was over 30 plus of them in front of the G.B team new what tactics the G.B team was going to do as its an old one done by the yanks many years ago into team bike racing.

The lads who broke away early got themselves out of the contained trap and made the race of their own.

 

Well done to them they went for it early and gained the spoils the G.B team didnt get in the top 30 from what i saw of it, the commentators gave so much credence as to the tactics of GB team before and during as to what would happen its like telling your opponents in a war where they are going to invade. It was a joke nothing else.

 

But come on Team G.B good luck

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Road racing as I've explained on another thred lab is tactics all team play the part in a rotation to set the pace the team is made up of pace setters and hill climbers. The idea is to get your top rider in the best position. In the last few miles to win the sprint this can go in many other forms , the Germans. Played the game but the Aussies sent a loan rider off on an early attack he stayed out front , the gap was in normal racing not that big and in races like the tour de France would have been pulled back , all get a bit daft as the winner just went with the first attack and stayed out there they started to argu over pace slowing down and speeding up , the team GB were left to take on them selves to set a pace are lads were burnt out , I know it sound mad but that's the way it is , bradly will win the time trial and in the velodrome. We will have succes , not simple is it lol lol , and don't for get team sky is team GB in the main the have hammered the rest all season as cav said they were happy stopping GB winning even if it meant fooooking there own chances cav not mister popular out side his own team

Edited July 29, 2012 by gonetoearth

[cragman 2,843]

I saw him get swallowed up by the chasing group, I think he got on the back of that group and had a lift to the finish as they say. No co-operation by other teams today for GB. They would rather loose and take no part than take Cav to the finish for a whooping. Four men is never enough over that distance

Now you sound like someone who knows what there talking about on cycling mate so can you explain to me by what you mean by "Four men is never enough over that distance"?? Surely Cavendish knows how fast he complete that course, when he has to push it and so forth. Isn't it just similar to a Marathon runner? .....

 

The GB team had to do all the driving to try to get the group back, they had no help from the other teams as most of the other teams had a man or two in the break, so why should they help to bring them back? They were more or less saying to GB, "if you want to catch the breakaway group, you can do the chasing, we're not helping you, we've a man up there already", and over such a long distance, four men doing all that work at the front was just too much for them. When the break went at first, a GB guy should have gone with it, then refused to work at the front, hoping to slow down the breakaway by doing so. GB thought that other teams would have helped, especially the germans who had also no one in the break. Cavendish was being sheltered by his team, saving himself for the sprint. If he'd have gone with the break, they would of tried to drop him on Boxhill or got caught so their own team sprinter could have had a go at Cavendish at the finish.

 

Sinders, that belgium guy finished 19th. http://london2012.bbc.co.uk/cycling-road/event/men-road-race/index.html

Edited July 29, 2012 by cragman

[gnasher16 31,602]

But why should ANY team not just GB have to rely on help from teams you are competing against ......its not like having a pacemaker in a track event in order to break a world record,they are all competing to win the race

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I dont claim to know what im on about but surely an event like this go,s against what competition is really all about............competition should always be about the best winning and the worst losing................if the best can only win if they get help from those they,re competing against well that go,s against the basic principal of sport to me it dont seem right.

You cant win if you dont stop your opponent from winning...........if GB were too naive to realise that then they cant have any complaints in my opinion.

Edited July 29, 2012 by gnasher16

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Gnasher the whole bike racing world and the aunties knew what GB were going todo and played to it at first the what the call independent went fo it the Aussie went with them Bradley had committed. To helping cav as he helped him win the tour , I know it all sounds mad but thats it. They got beat by there own tactics simple

[walshie 2,804]

Win or lose, I thought Mark Cavendish's attitude after the race made him look like a petulant child. He said BEFORE the race “If you lose, it means you have done something wrong." AFTER the race, apparently he didn't win because of the Australians? I hate whingers.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

He is well known for it bud. Any way he got beat not in any more races so he not British any more he is MANX lol lol

Edited July 29, 2012 by gonetoearth

[gnasher16 31,602]

Gnasher the whole bike racing world and the aunties knew what GB were going todo and played to it at first the what the call independent went fo it the Aussie went with them Bradley had committed. To helping cav as he helped him win the tour , I know it all sounds mad but thats it. They got beat by there own tactics simple

 

The whole boxing world knows Mike Tyson would come out to take your head off in the first round........Holyfield adjusted his own tactics in anticipation of his opponents tactics............................................the psycological battle is all part of competetive sport mate regardless what sport it is.

Edited July 29, 2012 by gnasher16

[walshie 2,804]

He is well known for it bud. Any way he got beat not in any more races so he not British any more he is MANX lol lol

Ah! That explains it.