graham4877 1,181 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Stick to facts mate, not your emotional view, main reason for not breeding is simply they have not proven themselves worthy to be bred from. Physically and emotionally there are no downsides as research has proved. Or perhaps you believe the old wives tale that a bitch bred from young won't attain her size and stature due to given the goodness she should have had to her pups. morals, have been put into me! , its a fact it take alot out of a pup to rear pups, f**k it take it out of a 4 year old bitch.. don't need some study to tell you that ! 1 Quote Link to post
whip x grey 276 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 iam not sure but,,,i do notice , kc whips gettin breed but cant reg , as bitch is only aloud to have so many litter,s under kc rules,,and brood bitch has to be over 2 yearold or somthing to reg any of her pups,,,,so there lie,s a problem,,,so now breeders will lie on who the parents are ,more than usual i would swerve them now ,,,unless you know guy or folk vouch for them,,its defo a buyers beware market, and a breeder,s heaven £$£ bitch as to be 12 month old at time of mating , can only register 4 litters out of a bitch unless prior permission from kc is given before mating (cant see that happening with popular breeds) and johnny2 the injection dont always work .... pups should of been gifted or £50 at max imo you can get kc reg whippets over here for £150 you sure its 12month for kc,,bitch to breed from under k,c,,,,,,,,i thought it was 24month,,,,either way,still too young Quote Link to post
Chid 6,378 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 iam not sure but,,,i do notice , kc whips gettin breed but cant reg , as bitch is only aloud to have so many litter,s under kc rules,,and brood bitch has to be over 2 yearold or somthing to reg any of her pups,,,,so there lie,s a problem,,,so now breeders will lie on who the parents are ,more than usual i would swerve them now ,,,unless you know guy or folk vouch for them,,its defo a buyers beware market, and a breeder,s heaven £$£ bitch as to be 12 month old at time of mating , can only register 4 litters out of a bitch unless prior permission from kc is given before mating (cant see that happening with popular breeds) and johnny2 the injection dont always work .... pups should of been gifted or £50 at max imo you can get kc reg whippets over here for £150 you sure its 12month for kc,,bitch to breed from under k,c,,,,,,,,i thought it was 24month,,,,either way,still too young 100% sure Quote Link to post
whip x grey 276 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 BLOODY HELL,,,,12month 1st season,,,k,c let ya breed the pants off a bitch,,,,well iam glad no k,c breeder,s ever got any off my money,,,,wouldnt own one ,even if it was free and buyer,s support k,c ,,,when every time they buy a pup with paper,s,,hang yer head in shame,, Quote Link to post
shushycatcher 219 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 accidental mating but the dog nailed the bitch when put to her!! Unbelievable 1 Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 BLOODY HELL,,,,12month 1st season,,,k,c let ya breed the pants off a bitch,,,,well iam glad no k,c breeder,s ever got any off my money,,,,wouldnt own one ,even if it was free and buyer,s support k,c ,,,when every time they buy a pup with paper,s,,hang yer head in shame,, I thort it was 18mt tbh.. but read the link i put up,,12 mth and its ok with the kc.. but they've dropped the number of litters you can have from 6 to 4.. now can anyone tell me why you'd need 4 litter from one bitch??? Quote Link to post
ci5 9 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Quote Link to post
ci5 9 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) kc paper work means more money,you have to pay for the paper so there for 4 litters means bit more money for the kc and plenty mopre for the breeder,they only dropped it from 4 to 6 due to a programe that made the kc look shite.theres been a few accidental matings with whippets im told lol Edited July 28, 2012 by ci5 Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 kc paper work means more money,you have to pay for the paper so there for 4 litters means bit more money for the kc and plenty mopre for the breeder,they only dropped it from 4 to 6 due to a programe that made the kc look shite.theres been a few accidental matings with whippets im told lol arr right so it was not dropped outa the blue,, i bet if you send a letter they let you have more! as you say its all about the £££ for them and breeders Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 iam not sure but,,,i do notice , kc whips gettin breed but cant reg , as bitch is only aloud to have so many litter,s under kc rules,,and brood bitch has to be over 2 yearold or somthing to reg any of her pups,,,,so there lie,s a problem,,,so now breeders will lie on who the parents are ,more than usual i would swerve them now ,,,unless you know guy or folk vouch for them,,its defo a buyers beware market, and a breeder,s heaven £$£ bitch as to be 12 month old at time of mating , can only register 4 litters out of a bitch unless prior permission from kc is given before mating (cant see that happening with popular breeds) and johnny2 the injection dont always work .... pups should of been gifted or £50 at max imo you can get kc reg whippets over here for £150 A good mate of mine has pups out of a top class bitch, that consistantly takes all quarry. Mated to a very good dog ,that has regularly caught on both big land ,and small, both retrieve,and are excellent lampers. The blood lines on both sides are excellent. He has bred for his own use . His selling criteria is permanent homes only. He is charging £150 the dogs, £200 the bitches How on earth can anyone justify £350 for a pup out of an 11 month old sire or dam.? 3 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,645 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 iam not sure but,,,i do notice , kc whips gettin breed but cant reg , as bitch is only aloud to have so many litter,s under kc rules,,and brood bitch has to be over 2 yearold or somthing to reg any of her pups,,,,so there lie,s a problem,,,so now breeders will lie on who the parents are ,more than usual i would swerve them now ,,,unless you know guy or folk vouch for them,,its defo a buyers beware market, and a breeder,s heaven £$£ bitch as to be 12 month old at time of mating , can only register 4 litters out of a bitch unless prior permission from kc is given before mating (cant see that happening with popular breeds) and johnny2 the injection dont always work .... pups should of been gifted or £50 at max imo you can get kc reg whippets over here for £150 A good mate of mine has pups out of a top class bitch, that consistantly takes all quarry. Mated to a very good dog ,that has regularly caught on both big land ,and small, both retrieve,and are excellent lampers. The blood lines on both sides are excellent. He has bred for his own use . His selling criteria is permanent homes only. He is charging £150 the dogs, £200 the bitches How on earth can anyone justify £350 for a pup out of an 11 month old sire or dam.? who is the bigger fool .. seller or buyer? 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 20,554 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 iam not sure but,,,i do notice , kc whips gettin breed but cant reg , as bitch is only aloud to have so many litter,s under kc rules,,and brood bitch has to be over 2 yearold or somthing to reg any of her pups,,,,so there lie,s a problem,,,so now breeders will lie on who the parents are ,more than usual i would swerve them now ,,,unless you know guy or folk vouch for them,,its defo a buyers beware market, and a breeder,s heaven £$£ bitch as to be 12 month old at time of mating , can only register 4 litters out of a bitch unless prior permission from kc is given before mating (cant see that happening with popular breeds) and johnny2 the injection dont always work .... pups should of been gifted or £50 at max imo you can get kc reg whippets over here for £150 A good mate of mine has pups out of a top class bitch, that consistantly takes all quarry. Mated to a very good dog ,that has regularly caught on both big land ,and small, both retrieve,and are excellent lampers. The blood lines on both sides are excellent. He has bred for his own use . His selling criteria is permanent homes only. He is charging £150 the dogs, £200 the bitches How on earth can anyone justify £350 for a pup out of an 11 month old sire or dam.? who is the bigger fool .. seller or buyer? I'd say the BUYER was the biggest fool !! If they didn't buy pups bred from pups, there wouldn't be a market for them and peddlers like this would go out of business ! Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,645 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 iam not sure but,,,i do notice , kc whips gettin breed but cant reg , as bitch is only aloud to have so many litter,s under kc rules,,and brood bitch has to be over 2 yearold or somthing to reg any of her pups,,,,so there lie,s a problem,,,so now breeders will lie on who the parents are ,more than usual i would swerve them now ,,,unless you know guy or folk vouch for them,,its defo a buyers beware market, and a breeder,s heaven £$£ bitch as to be 12 month old at time of mating , can only register 4 litters out of a bitch unless prior permission from kc is given before mating (cant see that happening with popular breeds) and johnny2 the injection dont always work .... pups should of been gifted or £50 at max imo you can get kc reg whippets over here for £150 A good mate of mine has pups out of a top class bitch, that consistantly takes all quarry. Mated to a very good dog ,that has regularly caught on both big land ,and small, both retrieve,and are excellent lampers. The blood lines on both sides are excellent. He has bred for his own use . His selling criteria is permanent homes only. He is charging £150 the dogs, £200 the bitches How on earth can anyone justify £350 for a pup out of an 11 month old sire or dam.? who is the bigger fool .. seller or buyer? I'd say the BUYER was the biggest fool !! If they didn't buy pups bred from pups, there wouldn't be a market for them and peddlers like this would go out of business ! Cheers. .true enough ill wager it wont be the last litter the bitch has though! Quote Link to post
riohog 5,645 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 i am no big fan of the k/c but imo they should increase the minimum age a bitch is bred and regedstered to at least 3 years old maybe 4 . that would steady down a few money grabbing f..ks ...and be a site better foe the bitches , but hey ,, they want the regestration fees !! so they are happy to take the money also;; 2 Quote Link to post
izzy855 2 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 iam not sure but,,,i do notice , kc whips gettin breed but cant reg , as bitch is only aloud to have so many litter,s under kc rules,,and brood bitch has to be over 2 yearold or somthing to reg any of her pups,,,,so there lie,s a problem,,,so now breeders will lie on who the parents are ,more than usual i would swerve them now ,,,unless you know guy or folk vouch for them,,its defo a buyers beware market, and a breeder,s heaven £$£ bitch as to be 12 month old at time of mating , can only register 4 litters out of a bitch unless prior permission from kc is given before mating (cant see that happening with popular breeds) and johnny2 the injection dont always work .... pups should of been gifted or £50 at max imo you can get kc reg whippets over here for £150 A good mate of mine has pups out of a top class bitch, that consistantly takes all quarry. Mated to a very good dog ,that has regularly caught on both big land ,and small, both retrieve,and are excellent lampers. The blood lines on both sides are excellent. He has bred for his own use . His selling criteria is permanent homes only. He is charging £150 the dogs, £200 the bitches How on earth can anyone justify £350 for a pup out of an 11 month old sire or dam.? who is the bigger fool .. seller or buyer? I'd say the BUYER was the biggest fool !! If they didn't buy pups bred from pups, there wouldn't be a market for them and peddlers like this would go out of business ! Cheers. yes am shure you are right sorry for trying to get in to the dog game i have bought my pup and will stick to what i have alll the best Quote Link to post
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