Every Pound earned

[Ratreeper 441]

Would that be such a bad thing in the long-term? We are on a path to extinction because everyone is programmed to want more and more and in the end greed will destroy everything. We rely on more technology to fix problems, but eventually there won't be a way to return fish to the sea, pollinate plants or bring back trees. The best solution would be to reduce the population down to a few billion instead of trying to manage an expanding population no-one seems to question as being a bad idea. I honestly don't think that society is better today than for our grandparents, quality of life might be better but the divide between rich and poor is ever increasing and I think happiness is taking a down turn.

 

We can't change our nature, it's what has got us here and it is what will have to save us. We could have continued pond lifeing about the place like every other species, but we didn't we evolved into what we are now. Our competative and adaptive superiority put us here and now it is threatening us. Suddenly burning all ya fivers and bartering won't change jack shit. Money isn't the problem, human nature is.

 

I think it is debateable on how you clarify what is considered superior. We are the most intelligent animal, but intelligence hasn't been proven to be evolutionary stable or beneficial in the long-term at all. There will be single celled organisms alive long after we have wiped ourselves out, leaving a gap for the next dominant and adaptive creature. But evolution aside, we are certainly successfully adaptive but we have a tragic blend of intellect and biology that is very destructive. However there are many humans clever enough to get past this and see what needs to be done and not just what they would like, it is a shame that most people are idiots who strut around trying to get a girl to f**k them and buy a gold rolex. So money is a big part of this, we live in a society where everyone is competing for status and we use money for this, so I agree bartering would just replace the problem with another but it would be limited to a lesser degree. Maybe a nuclear war would save more lives than it would destroy, who knows I am off to buy a gold, diamond studded penis extender.

[Caprelous 217]

I agree with you about human nature if Joe Bloggs see a chap down the road with a nice car he thinks i wont one of those but I want mine to be bigger and better than what Bloggs has got and so it goes on.

 

This is what the financial system preys on and exploits to the full we go into debt to borrow money to buy that car so we are better than joe Bloggs but all we are doing is fuelling the situation.

Any ferking car will do as long as its reliable and does it job gets from a to b what they was designed for to transport people and goods but no we want a new flash all dancing gleaming b*****d.

 

Its all to do with showing off as in nature the animal with the bigger flashy antlers and bollocks gets the decent bird and this applies to humans so your right to a large degree.

 

But when it no longer matters to have the bigger antlers and bollocks to show to your mate your the dogs doodas neither does it matter to have all these attachments and you start thinking money is a tool just like your car and if it does the job why buy another to keep up with blogs.

 

Look at the waste of energy in producing a new car ( antlers Bollocks) why not keep the old faithfull going thats stood the test of time, it leaves a lesser carbon footprint on our earth as does other item that cost money to produce so why not make them all last as long as we can.

 

God my stones are aching writing this

 

When it no longer matters the human race will loose its competative superiority and will soon become extinct! Like I said, it put us where we are and it will be what we rely on to save us. I know what you're saying and I agree but our greed is our advantage and our curse. We live in a competative world and that environment produces the best and the worst. Without it I genuinely believe we would be nothing.

 

As Malt has just said, it's about finding a balance. Unfortunately I don't think we are really capable of sustaining any balance, it's just not natural for a species. We will boom and then we will bust and the cycle will repeat, no matter the society.

I agree with you about human nature if Joe Bloggs see a chap down the road with a nice car he thinks i wont one of those but I want mine to be bigger and better than what Bloggs has got and so it goes on.

 

This is what the financial system preys on and exploits to the full we go into debt to borrow money to buy that car so we are better than joe Bloggs but all we are doing is fuelling the situation.

Any ferking car will do as long as its reliable and does it job gets from a to b what they was designed for to transport people and goods but no we want a new flash all dancing gleaming b*****d.

 

Its all to do with showing off as in nature the animal with the bigger flashy antlers and bollocks gets the decent bird and this applies to humans so your right to a large degree.

 

But when it no longer matters to have the bigger antlers and bollocks to show to your mate your the dogs doodas neither does it matter to have all these attachments and you start thinking money is a tool just like your car and if it does the job why buy another to keep up with blogs.

 

Look at the waste of energy in producing a new car ( antlers Bollocks) why not keep the old faithfull going thats stood the test of time, it leaves a lesser carbon footprint on our earth as does other item that cost money to produce so why not make them all last as long as we can.

 

God my stones are aching writing this

 

When it no longer matters the human race will loose its competative superiority and will soon become extinct! Like I said, it put us where we are and it will be what we rely on to save us. I know what you're saying and I agree but our greed is our advantage and our curse. We live in a competative world and that environment produces the best and the worst. Without it I genuinely believe we would be nothing.

 

As Malt has just said, it's about finding a balance. Unfortunately I don't think we are really capable of sustaining any balance, it's just not natural for a species. We will boom and then we will bust and the cycle will repeat, no matter the society.

 

 

Dont forget the very last time the world was in a depression what happened and from austerity through what remained civilization rebuilt itself twice but took a war/ wars to correct the balance and reduce the populous.

Those times conventional weapons was used.

The next time will be different.

I only hope God forbid this is not how this depression will pan out history has a habit of repeating itself.

 

Nice talking to you

Cheers

Stu

[Born Hunter 17,910]

I think it is debateable on how you clarify what is considered superior. We are the most intelligent animal, but intelligence hasn't been proven to be evolutionary stable or beneficial in the long-term at all. There will be single celled organisms alive long after we have wiped ourselves out, leaving a gap for the next dominant and adaptive creature. But evolution aside, we are certainly successfully adaptive but we have a tragic blend of intellect and biology that is very destructive. However there are many humans clever enough to get past this and see what needs to be done and not just what they would like, it is a shame that most people are idiots who strut around trying to get a girl to f**k them and buy a gold rolex. So money is a big part of this, we live in a society where everyone is competing for status and we use money for this, so I agree bartering would just replace the problem with another but it would be limited to a lesser degree. Maybe a nuclear war would save more lives than it would destroy, who knows I am off to buy a gold, diamond studded penis extender.

 

You have just said the problem is product of human nature and yet you believe essentially swapping one form or currency for another will fix it?

 

The nature of humans remains unchanged in both so why would corrumption go away?

[Born Hunter 17,910]

I agree with you about human nature if Joe Bloggs see a chap down the road with a nice car he thinks i wont one of those but I want mine to be bigger and better than what Bloggs has got and so it goes on.

 

This is what the financial system preys on and exploits to the full we go into debt to borrow money to buy that car so we are better than joe Bloggs but all we are doing is fuelling the situation.

Any ferking car will do as long as its reliable and does it job gets from a to b what they was designed for to transport people and goods but no we want a new flash all dancing gleaming b*****d.

 

Its all to do with showing off as in nature the animal with the bigger flashy antlers and bollocks gets the decent bird and this applies to humans so your right to a large degree.

 

But when it no longer matters to have the bigger antlers and bollocks to show to your mate your the dogs doodas neither does it matter to have all these attachments and you start thinking money is a tool just like your car and if it does the job why buy another to keep up with blogs.

 

Look at the waste of energy in producing a new car ( antlers Bollocks) why not keep the old faithfull going thats stood the test of time, it leaves a lesser carbon footprint on our earth as does other item that cost money to produce so why not make them all last as long as we can.

 

God my stones are aching writing this

 

When it no longer matters the human race will loose its competative superiority and will soon become extinct! Like I said, it put us where we are and it will be what we rely on to save us. I know what you're saying and I agree but our greed is our advantage and our curse. We live in a competative world and that environment produces the best and the worst. Without it I genuinely believe we would be nothing.

 

As Malt has just said, it's about finding a balance. Unfortunately I don't think we are really capable of sustaining any balance, it's just not natural for a species. We will boom and then we will bust and the cycle will repeat, no matter the society.

I agree with you about human nature if Joe Bloggs see a chap down the road with a nice car he thinks i wont one of those but I want mine to be bigger and better than what Bloggs has got and so it goes on.

 

This is what the financial system preys on and exploits to the full we go into debt to borrow money to buy that car so we are better than joe Bloggs but all we are doing is fuelling the situation.

Any ferking car will do as long as its reliable and does it job gets from a to b what they was designed for to transport people and goods but no we want a new flash all dancing gleaming b*****d.

 

Its all to do with showing off as in nature the animal with the bigger flashy antlers and bollocks gets the decent bird and this applies to humans so your right to a large degree.

 

But when it no longer matters to have the bigger antlers and bollocks to show to your mate your the dogs doodas neither does it matter to have all these attachments and you start thinking money is a tool just like your car and if it does the job why buy another to keep up with blogs.

 

Look at the waste of energy in producing a new car ( antlers Bollocks) why not keep the old faithfull going thats stood the test of time, it leaves a lesser carbon footprint on our earth as does other item that cost money to produce so why not make them all last as long as we can.

 

God my stones are aching writing this

 

When it no longer matters the human race will loose its competative superiority and will soon become extinct! Like I said, it put us where we are and it will be what we rely on to save us. I know what you're saying and I agree but our greed is our advantage and our curse. We live in a competative world and that environment produces the best and the worst. Without it I genuinely believe we would be nothing.

 

As Malt has just said, it's about finding a balance. Unfortunately I don't think we are really capable of sustaining any balance, it's just not natural for a species. We will boom and then we will bust and the cycle will repeat, no matter the society.

 

 

Dont forget the very last time the world was in a depression what happened and from austerity through what remained civilization rebuilt itself twice but took a war/ wars to correct the balance and reduce the populous.

Those times conventional weapons was used.

The next time will be different.

I only hope God forbid this is not how this depression will pan out history has a habit of repeating itself.

 

Nice talking to you

Cheers

Stu

 

We can only wait and see and hope it doesn't but human nature is human nature. Some would survive nuclear war and the cycle continues.....

[Malt 379]

 

Dont forget the very last time the world was in a depression what happened and from austerity through what remained civilization rebuilt itself twice but took a war/ wars to correct the balance and reduce the populous.

Those times conventional weapons was used.

The next time will be different.

I only hope God forbid this is not how this depression will pan out history has a habit of repeating itself.

 

Nice talking to you

Cheers

Stu

 

That's an interesting way of looking at it and certainly rings true, it's kind of how I look at things. Maybe our inherent need to constantly fight wars and conflicts with each other is natures way of keeping a check on numbers. We don't fit into the usual circles that other animals do when it comes to keeping check on a population and nature being nature, usually finds its own way of levelling things out. If all that is true, then the nuclear deterrent we've had stopping us fighting major wars over the last 50 years or so has done more harm than good..

[Caprelous 217]

Dont forget the very last time the world was in a depression what happened and from austerity through what remained civilization rebuilt itself twice but took a war/ wars to correct the balance and reduce the populous.

Those times conventional weapons was used.

The next time will be different.

I only hope God forbid this is not how this depression will pan out history has a habit of repeating itself.

 

Nice talking to you

Cheers

Stu

 

That's an interesting way of looking at it and certainly rings true, it's kind of how I look at things. Maybe our inherent need to constantly fight wars and conflicts with each other is natures way of keeping a check on numbers. We don't fit into the usual circles that other animals do when it comes to keeping check on a population and nature being nature, usually finds its own way of levelling things out. If all that is true, then the nuclear deterrent we've had stopping us fighting major wars over the last 50 years or so has done more harm than good..

Dont forget the very last time the world was in a depression what happened and from austerity through what remained civilization rebuilt itself twice but took a war/ wars to correct the balance and reduce the populous.

Those times conventional weapons was used.

The next time will be different.

I only hope God forbid this is not how this depression will pan out history has a habit of repeating itself.

 

Nice talking to you

Cheers

Stu

 

That's an interesting way of looking at it and certainly rings true, it's kind of how I look at things. Maybe our inherent need to constantly fight wars and conflicts with each other is natures way of keeping a check on numbers. We don't fit into the usual circles that other animals do when it comes to keeping check on a population and nature being nature, usually finds its own way of levelling things out. If all that is true, then the nuclear deterrent we've had stopping us fighting major wars over the last 50 years or so has done more harm than good..

 

 

Frightening Malt but I agree with you, only time will tell but if you look at the world economies right now and how they are failing then indeed history will repeat itself .

the earth is once again over populated, nature cant rectify it , in the past plague controlled the population so stick your head between the cheeks of your arse and kiss your nuts and everything else goodbye time.

Edited June 21, 2012 by Caprelous

[Born Hunter 17,910]

That's an interesting way of looking at it and certainly rings true, it's kind of how I look at things. Maybe our inherent need to constantly fight wars and conflicts with each other is natures way of keeping a check on numbers. We don't fit into the usual circles that other animals do when it comes to keeping check on a population and nature being nature, usually finds its own way of levelling things out. If all that is true, then the nuclear deterrent we've had stopping us fighting major wars over the last 50 years or so has done more harm than good..

 

FFS no body put Malt in charge of a Trident sub!

[Caprelous 217]

That's an interesting way of looking at it and certainly rings true, it's kind of how I look at things. Maybe our inherent need to constantly fight wars and conflicts with each other is natures way of keeping a check on numbers. We don't fit into the usual circles that other animals do when it comes to keeping check on a population and nature being nature, usually finds its own way of levelling things out. If all that is true, then the nuclear deterrent we've had stopping us fighting major wars over the last 50 years or so has done more harm than good..

 

FFS no body put Malt in charge of a Trident sub!

That's an interesting way of looking at it and certainly rings true, it's kind of how I look at things. Maybe our inherent need to constantly fight wars and conflicts with each other is natures way of keeping a check on numbers. We don't fit into the usual circles that other animals do when it comes to keeping check on a population and nature being nature, usually finds its own way of levelling things out. If all that is true, then the nuclear deterrent we've had stopping us fighting major wars over the last 50 years or so has done more harm than good..

 

FFS no body put Malt in charge of a Trident sub!

 

 

 

 

They build them feckers near me maybe I should nip in and de activate them .

 

Malts father I am told had a superb job wasnt he a deck hand on a nuke sub?

Think about it

 

Might have been an irish submarine though come to think of it.

Edited June 21, 2012 by Caprelous

[Born Hunter 17,910]

They build them feckers near me maybe I should nip in and de activate them .

 

Malts father I am told had a superb job wasnt he a deck hand on a nuke sub?

Think about it

 

That explains a lot!........

[Ratreeper 441]

I think it is debateable on how you clarify what is considered superior. We are the most intelligent animal, but intelligence hasn't been proven to be evolutionary stable or beneficial in the long-term at all. There will be single celled organisms alive long after we have wiped ourselves out, leaving a gap for the next dominant and adaptive creature. But evolution aside, we are certainly successfully adaptive but we have a tragic blend of intellect and biology that is very destructive. However there are many humans clever enough to get past this and see what needs to be done and not just what they would like, it is a shame that most people are idiots who strut around trying to get a girl to f**k them and buy a gold rolex. So money is a big part of this, we live in a society where everyone is competing for status and we use money for this, so I agree bartering would just replace the problem with another but it would be limited to a lesser degree. Maybe a nuclear war would save more lives than it would destroy, who knows I am off to buy a gold, diamond studded penis extender.

 

You have just said the problem is product of human nature and yet you believe essentially swapping one form or currency for another will fix it?

 

The nature of humans remains unchanged in both so why would corrumption go away?

 

It would merely make corruption and excessive wealth more difficult. My suggestion to fix all major issues at the moment is to reduce the population and wipe out the stupid.

[Malt 379]

Gits!

[foxfan 479]

What a wonderful thread Just to add my twopen'orth, i like to think human nature is in fact inherently good, after all how many people do you know who would actualy choose war over peace ?

Also, in the western world the birth rate has been steadily falling for the past 20 yrs or so, which would seem to indicate that when people reach a certain standard of living the population levels out or even declines.

How about instead of dropping missiles costing a million pounds a pop, we drop a million pound bundles, the recipients would soon be on our side, so no more terrorist threat, and their standard of living would rise, leading to lower birth rate.

 

Ok thats tongue in cheek, but we need to stop looking at one another as in just 'what can i profit'

[Ratreeper 441]

What a wonderful thread Just to add my twopen'orth, i like to think human nature is in fact inherently good, after all how many people do you know who would actualy choose war over peace ?

Also, in the western world the birth rate has been steadily falling for the past 20 yrs or so, which would seem to indicate that when people reach a certain standard of living the population levels out or even declines.

How about instead of dropping missiles costing a million pounds a pop, we drop a million pound bundles, the recipients would soon be on our side, so no more terrorist threat, and their standard of living would rise, leading to lower birth rate.

 

Ok thats tongue in cheek, but we need to stop looking at one another as in just 'what can i profit'

 

[foxfan 479]

I think it is debateable on how you clarify what is considered superior. We are the most intelligent animal, but intelligence hasn't been proven to be evolutionary stable or beneficial in the long-term at all. There will be single celled organisms alive long after we have wiped ourselves out, leaving a gap for the next dominant and adaptive creature. But evolution aside, we are certainly successfully adaptive but we have a tragic blend of intellect and biology that is very destructive. However there are many humans clever enough to get past this and see what needs to be done and not just what they would like, it is a shame that most people are idiots who strut around trying to get a girl to f**k them and buy a gold rolex. So money is a big part of this, we live in a society where everyone is competing for status and we use money for this, so I agree bartering would just replace the problem with another but it would be limited to a lesser degree. Maybe a nuclear war would save more lives than it would destroy, who knows I am off to buy a gold, diamond studded penis extender.

 

You have just said the problem is product of human nature and yet you believe essentially swapping one form or currency for another will fix it?

 

The nature of humans remains unchanged in both so why would corrumption go away?

 

It would merely make corruption and excessive wealth more difficult. My suggestion to fix all major issues at the moment is to reduce the population and wipe out the stupid.

 

Mate, not having a dig at you but im always wary when people say that. If one is worried about overpopulation then the logical thing to do is top oneself, but the people who say it think their own lives are far too important, so of course its some one else who has to die.

[Ratreeper 441]

I think it is debateable on how you clarify what is considered superior. We are the most intelligent animal, but intelligence hasn't been proven to be evolutionary stable or beneficial in the long-term at all. There will be single celled organisms alive long after we have wiped ourselves out, leaving a gap for the next dominant and adaptive creature. But evolution aside, we are certainly successfully adaptive but we have a tragic blend of intellect and biology that is very destructive. However there are many humans clever enough to get past this and see what needs to be done and not just what they would like, it is a shame that most people are idiots who strut around trying to get a girl to f**k them and buy a gold rolex. So money is a big part of this, we live in a society where everyone is competing for status and we use money for this, so I agree bartering would just replace the problem with another but it would be limited to a lesser degree. Maybe a nuclear war would save more lives than it would destroy, who knows I am off to buy a gold, diamond studded penis extender.

 

You have just said the problem is product of human nature and yet you believe essentially swapping one form or currency for another will fix it?

 

The nature of humans remains unchanged in both so why would corrumption go away?

 

It would merely make corruption and excessive wealth more difficult. My suggestion to fix all major issues at the moment is to reduce the population and wipe out the stupid.

 

Mate, not having a dig at you but im always wary when people say that. If one is worried about overpopulation then the logical thing to do is top oneself, but the people who say it think their own lives are far too important, so of course its some one else who has to die.

 

There are other ways to reduce a population and I never suggested rounding up martyrs, for example people only having one child and not getting paid to have a litter of 14 like the stories the media love would go a long way. The problem is that the lower the IQ, the more children people are likely to have and this is absolutely true. I would like to see an end to the strong defending the weak, if people want kids they can't afford it is no-one else's responsibility to feed them imo.