PeakOil 352 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 It doesn't matter what bail outs, election results or talking heads on the TV say about the latest kicking the can down the road exercise in Greece. Their debt is to big and their income to small to pay it back with compound interest. Lending them more money at compound interest is not likely to help, just kicks the can further down the road. But the 'Euro project' will roll on throwing hundreds of billions of good money after bad. But the basic facts can't be changed no matter what hot air politicians and experts come out with. 1 - The debt is to big, 2 - the interest payments are to big. 3 - The gap between government receipts and outgoings are to big. Lending more money and charging compound interest on top doesn't fix 1,2 or 3. In fact it makes them worse. On the crown owning all the land in the England & Wales, you just rent from the crown what you think you own. True allodial title doesn't exist in the eyes of the state. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yes malt I hear what you are saying and it does stink and is very interesting. But we know all of the above are corrupt. We know it's the ones at the top who benefit. Maybe it's just me. I tend not to worry about stuff I have no influence over. I just don't buy into the whole concept to be honest. I'm just a mere simpleton who is happy with his lot in life Most are mate, I'm cruising along ok but I can't stand injustice and bullying and it's being done on a global scale. If you woke up one morning, checked your bank and everything was gone would you buy into it then? It could happen! Personally, it's not nice seeing your mates hurt and killed in the s**tholes of the world 'for the greater good', only to work out finally all you're doing is supporting the banking institutions using violence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caprelous 217 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Yes malt I hear what you are saying and it does stink and is very interesting. But we know all of the above are corrupt. We know it's the ones at the top who benefit. Maybe it's just me. I tend not to worry about stuff I have no influence over. I just don't buy into the whole concept to be honest. I'm just a mere simpleton who is happy with his lot in life Yes malt I hear what you are saying and it does stink and is very interesting. But we know all of the above are corrupt. We know it's the ones at the top who benefit. Maybe it's just me. I tend not to worry about stuff I have no influence over. I just don't buy into the whole concept to be honest. I'm just a mere simpleton who is happy with his lot in life Your view on things change BAW once you have been on the receiving end of their tactics, I like you used to believe they were doing me a favour and helping me in life and for many years my disillusionment remained as such. but all of a sudden they change tack and create a situation were you become vunerable to attack and its in their game plan long term to seperate any wealth you accumalate back into their coffers. Just like they are doing now by restricting money in the economy they are creating a situation that customers are denied money by reducing overdrafts etc so the economy becomes stifled and business collapse due to no money coming in and the works isnt there either due to the financial restraints put on customers , people loose their homes hard working genuine people which leaves them reliant on the state the tax payer like your goodself has to pick up the tab. Then when the dust has settled OHH it wasnt us that caused it but it matters not the damage of their actions or lack of the m is clear to see by those with the interlect who have been on the receiving end of the caneing. I would not piss on the financial institution even if it was on fire. once burnt badly you dont stick your hand in a blue flame again thats for sure. theiving b*****ds Nowt short. Edited June 19, 2012 by Caprelous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 It doesn't matter what bail outs, election results or talking heads on the TV say about the latest kicking the can down the road exercise in Greece. Their debt is to big and their income to small to pay it back with compound interest. Lending them more money at compound interest is not likely to help, just kicks the can further down the road. But the 'Euro project' will roll on throwing hundreds of billions of good money after bad. But the basic facts can't be changed no matter what hot air politicians and experts come out with. 1 - The debt is to big, 2 - the interest payments are to big. 3 - The gap between government receipts and outgoings are to big. Lending more money and charging compound interest on top doesn't fix 1,2 or 3. In fact it makes them worse. On the crown owning all the land in the England & Wales, you just rent from the crown what you think you own. True allodial title doesn't exist in the eyes of the state. Absolutely right PeakOil, legally it exists in Scotland however trying to get a straight answer out of them is like getting blood out of a stone, probably because they aren't sure themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 "The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." — Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ok so what you propose in doing to change it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeakOil 352 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ok so what you propose in doing to change it? Mass bank withdrawals. On a certain day EVERYONE of the plebs who has money in the banks goes in and takes it all out in CASH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ok so what you propose in doing to change it? That isn't my call scot.... If I said 'We need to do this for everyone's benefit' then I'd be no better than them. I propose we educate everyone in the cold, hard facts, then let us all make a decision. I'm sure there are 'good guys' who've got a brain and can lead us out of this mess if we all stuck together, but the real question is do you want to? This isn't about taxes (we need them), or creating anarchy, we need a system that works, is fair, and stands for justice at all times. This isn't it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ok lads, I appreciate your views. I'll bow out of this conversation now and thank you for the education :thins: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Can't get that tube clip on my phone bad signal. Can I ask you something? What is it you hope to achieve with your hatred of the banks? If its to warn us you have, if it's to brainwash us into your line of thinking, it won't. Mate, I'm no conspirisist but when you start doing a bit of reading into the whole way the banking system, finacial system, government spending, government debt, government borrowing, etc works, you'll find that the whole lot stinks to high heaven and is set up to benefit a few at the very top.. We are in effect forced to lend the government our own money through the banks and finacial institutions which has to be paid back by us with added interest. It's like you lending me a tenner with no say in the matter, then having to pay for the privilege of it on top.. Tinfoil hats at the ready Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Can't get that tube clip on my phone bad signal. Can I ask you something? What is it you hope to achieve with your hatred of the banks? If its to warn us you have, if it's to brainwash us into your line of thinking, it won't. Mate, I'm no conspirisist but when you start doing a bit of reading into the whole way the banking system, finacial system, government spending, government debt, government borrowing, etc works, you'll find that the whole lot stinks to high heaven and is set up to benefit a few at the very top.. We are in effect forced to lend the government our own money through the banks and finacial institutions which has to be paid back by us with added interest. It's like you lending me a tenner with no say in the matter, then having to pay for the privilege of it on top.. Tinfoil hats at the ready Not quite yet mate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Should have been this bloody iPhone apple the crooked swines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Should have been this bloody iPhone apple the crooked swines They're ruled by the Rothschilds, and iPhones have brain scanning devices in them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Mass withdrawals would certainly shake them, but it would also cripple the nation. Don't think you would get many pats on the back from the populace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeakOil 352 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Mass withdrawals would certainly shake them, but it would also cripple the nation. Don't think you would get many pats on the back from the populace The medicine would not taste very nice, true. You can carry on asking self serving politicians to ask the bankers to be jolly nice chaps. Or perhaps the Icelandic model of voting out all the self serving politicians in the pocket of moneylenders, not making private companies debts liable to be paid by the population. Investigate and jail bankers guilty of fraud. You would hear plenty about Iceland when their crisis hit and their self serving politicians of the time prepared to consign the population to paying off private companies debts for perpetuity. Since the population fecked that idea off, along with the politicians you don't hear anything anymore about Iceland on the news or in the papers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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