chartpolski 27,272 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) Yes, of course some, maybe most, dogs are better daytime or night time. Thats not the point. I thought we were on about having a dog that hunts up during the day, but also works the lamp well ? I've found that almost all dogs I've seen or owned do this, and it just came as a bit of a supprise that you seemed to think that dogs that hunted up during the day were incapable of lamping well, and vice-versa. As I say, I respect your opinion, but it's inconsistent with what I and others believe. Cheers. Edited June 20, 2012 by chartpolski Quote Link to post
onelife88 1 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 lol ok well i been with him now for 8 months hes well sound Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I know what you are saying about Finn BTR, and think you are right in many ways. But i think he's just a c**t at times. What he means, was in referance to my own dog. The dog is ok at night, and has got a ot better. But is he is running something and it goes into the rough, a hedge, or the woods etc, or even through a hedge. And i knock the lamp off, mostly he will just keep running it in the dark. On the up side, you will often hear the squeal, from the darkness, and he's found it and caught it. But it can be a pain at times. I would put this down 100% to his very high prey drive, and the very uneven balance between the amount of night work and amount of day work he gets. He's out pretty much every single day in the season (and over summer really), for as many hours as possible. But due to the available land round here, only really a couple of nights a week on the lamp, and not getting a crazy number of runs. However, when i have him out a few days on the bounce, he stops being so hard headed, and i can even send him down the beam after something, then knock it off and get him to come back from half way, and one time lamped him off the slip just the once! So i think its a combination of not enough night work, shit tons of day work, and him being a bit of a bell end. Quote Link to post
bryson 562 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 very honest post mate my dog sounds very similar to yours here he is 22 tts coming on good but can be a little wanker at times lol Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I like whippet's they only take 3 full shovels of dirt with the bulldog to bury 1 Quote Link to post
mally 832 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I like whippet's they only take 3 full shovels of dirt with the bulldog to bury Would only take one to burry that terrier on your profile pick mate Going back to the topic. My whippets work day/night. They ferret, mooch and lamp, none of them hunt up on the lamp as soon as i turn it off there back without hesitation. A few lads have been out with me and i'm sure they will tell you that they hold there own out in the field. I like the whippet as there no trouble in the house and they give 100% in the field and do very well on the land i run them on. Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I like whippet's they only take 3 full shovels of dirt with the bulldog to bury Would only take one to burry that terrier on your profile pick mate Going back to the topic. My whippets work day/night. They ferret, mooch and lamp, none of them hunt up on the lamp as soon as i turn it off there back without hesitation. A few lads have been out with me and i'm sure they will tell you that they hold there own out in the field. I like the whippet as there no trouble in the house and they give 100% in the field and do very well on the land i run them on. No mate it took 4 or 5 for him i liked him Quote Link to post
mally 832 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 BTR1083, I respect your opinion, but with all due respect, you say you are "the younger generation", have you any experience with lamping dogs ? I ask this, because just about every dog I have owned has worked day, hunting up it's own quarry; and night with the lamp, and returning as soon as the beam is off. Now, almost every one I've known in the game was the same.. their dogs worked day AND night to varying degrees of proficiency. I know pedigree Whippets that do all aspects of hunting, ferreting, lamping, and do it well. You are either putting your point across not very well; or you are basing your opinion on limited experience. As I say, I respect your opinion, but it conflicts with what many on here have experienced. Cheers. Hi yeah valid points being honest, and yes I have enough experience with lamp dogs, not decades but enough in season I'm out 4-5 times a week at night and out working them in the day when I feel like it. My dad has 35 year experience and he preferes day time. I know dogs can do both but when you have dogs that hunt up like beagles I can promise it's not an easy transition. I could give a list of dogs I've seen at night that do alot in the day that arnt my cuppa tea. Plus I find with anything it takes practice to know the difference maybe I'm in patient but I think you get a better animal if it specialises in one and these are the dogs I'm talking about. I expect alot out of my dogs I'm being honest but I do put the time in on training. if anything a few might say over the top. Not having a pop mate but it's a piece of piss to train a dog just to run the lamp, however it takes a lot longer to train a dog to do all disciplines, i.e ferreting,mooching, bushing and lamping. I can't see the point in just having a dog for lamping myself as it just wouldn't suit me at all, My Fawn whippet will even help my Labrador to dog the pheasant poults back to the woods during the summer months, if any poult won't fly for one reason or the other she'll just stand over it until i get there. The more time you spend training and just being out with any dog is time well spent and you will be repaid tenfold. 1 Quote Link to post
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