Summer Hunting.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

 

Rob, you are a star!

 

I'm fairly sure the threads in which he was a bit arrogant were deleted, but he took real offence at my 'something i have noticed thread' assuming it was me slating him, when actually i was slating whin.

 

Confusion reigns!I'

 

Im not going to comment anymore as i've had a good walk in the sun with the dogs, and a couple of pints, so i will say something i regret.

 

i have a good memory,deleted or not go and chill in the cool its not worth the hastle mate

 

Me too mate..

Mal you shouldn't have commented butt has cookiemuppet already thinks your biased towards us.

Now cookie likes to stalk Jai... we all know about cookie and his spying(speed camerea's lol) so following Jai around and taking notes is right up his street.

 

Cookie takes being a prick to new levels and tries to act the cnut on a regular basis,he kind of gets some kind of perverse pleasure from it!

[paulus 26]

 

Rob, you are a star!

 

I'm fairly sure the threads in which he was a bit arrogant were deleted, but he took real offence at my 'something i have noticed thread' assuming it was me slating him, when actually i was slating whin.

 

Confusion reigns!I'

 

Im not going to comment anymore as i've had a good walk in the sun with the dogs, and a couple of pints, so i will say something i regret.

 

i have a good memory,deleted or not go and chill in the cool its not worth the hastle mate

 

Me too mate..

Mal you shouldn't have commented butt has cookiemuppet already thinks your biased towards us.

Now cookie likes to stalk Jai... we all know about cookie and his spying(speed camerea's lol) so following Jai around and taking notes is right up his street.

 

Cookie takes being a prick to new levels and tries to act the cnut on a regular basis,he kind of gets some kind of perverse pleasure from it!

dejarvou

[kenny14 656]

I do but i don't really.

As Paulus said, walking the dogs here means now and then you get accidental runs and catches, it cannot be helped. I do try to stay away from places i think there may be something and make loads of noise. But then again i do try to do that all year round cos the things which get up here always mean my dogs end up somewhere i really dont want them to be and usually injured. But there is no way can i keep the dogs leashed all summer.

The people i do pest control for at the castle have loads of trouble with rabbits in their private garden, so several times a week i run the dogs through...more to show willing than to catch cos they are near on impossible to get in there. And any i do accidentally get throughout the summer in the grounds i make sure they see them. I've noticed 'normal' people do not understand the reasons you cannot lamp dogs in the summer, and think you should be able to do it all year round.

 

But if you are doing pest control properly during the winter they will see the results anyway, so there should be no real need for summer hunting....it's just an excuse for some people or they cannot catch them as has already been said when at their fittest

i dont think sometimes it is as black and white as this. i have a small permission that i mentioned earlier in the thread about eating all the horses grass. two paddocks over from this there is a roadside verge with lots of rabbits in that are constantly moving in to the warrens that i vacate, there are always a steady supply of rabbits to fill in the gap i make. i am not allowed to ferret this roadside verge, i have had permission turned down, and i couldnt possibly poach as its illegal and also near the main farm so id be seen

so after ive told you my life story, and im not having a dig, i think in general most THL members will judge summer hunters in a bad light, without hearing the full story, there is more involved than simply hunting out of season, and i think people shouldnt judge folk so rapidly on with such conviction, it doenst make you any more or less of a hunter. (moll im not having a go at you here, please dont think i am!)

 

Not being a dick, but through out this whole thread, there has been a que of folk desperate to justify themselves and their actions, when no one was having any kind of dig at them. We ALL knw that there are situations (and plenty of them) where the numbers just need controlling all of the time. However, there are planty of folk who have no permission, and hunt for fun (for want of a better word) and i was just wondering if we'd get anyone willing to stick their hand up and say, aye i keep going all year, just because i want to. Also was wondering if folk suffered the catch 22 situation, whereby if they started in the season, the game was already gone, so started earlier to get in first. I used to go out with a lad who got sick of the game being lamp shy and gone in september, cos everyone local started end if july, so he just started mid june, so he could get the kills before anyone else. etc.

 

Funnily enough but i rang a big arable farm today where i have permission and just asking to come down and excercise the dogs, and they said, aye no bother, but you wont be ferreting will you? It's summer after all. And these folk grow nothing but acres and acres of crops. It's a funny old world.

 

What you say makes a lot of sense, and I know you're not having a go at anyone, but like I've stated on this topic there are many reasons why I and many other people don't put our feet up come the end of Winter. I for one have never felt the need to justify my actions, I simply replied to the original question and gave my reasons. I'm my own person, make my own choices, and have always been prepared to stand or fall by them.

I thoroughly enjoy all my hunting, whether it be for control or for the pot, it is done legally and therefore if my quarry has a close season I abide by it. If not, then I tackle the control of a certain species as and when it's required, which in some cases is an ongoing activity.

 

As well as antis, some of the people who condemn my actions will be those who have no permission, and spend the Summer at shows bragging about the huge hauls they've had, and how many Deer their Dogs have taken (regardless of it's illegality or in season. If you've ever attended a show, you've seen and heard them. ). Some others will have lots of permission, but don't hunt during Summer for other reasons. It'd be easy for me to say these people are only part time hunters, and therefore 'I'm better and more committed than you', but like you state, there are many different situations and reasons for each of our choices, and some people could perhaps have a little more respect and take time to think before condemning.

[WILF 51,710]

The fact is, in most places this time of year the argument is a little academic when it comes to dogs as all the crops are about 4 foot high anyway.

[kenny14 656]

The fact is, in most places this time of year the argument is a little academic when it comes to dogs as all the crops are about 4 foot high anyway.

Again, it depends what the quarry is and the method used, but I suspect the original question was meant as:

 

'Who hunts with Lurchers or Ferrets during the Summer?' and because it wasn't, it attracted mine and other hunting in Summer replies.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

The fact is, in most places this time of year the argument is a little academic when it comes to dogs as all the crops are about 4 foot high anyway.

Again, it depends what the quarry is and the method used, but I suspect the original question was meant as:

 

'Who hunts with Lurchers or Ferrets during the Summer?' and because it wasn't, it attracted mine and other hunting in Summer replies.

But are you "hunting" per se or are you performing pest control which could be construed as a vocation rather than hunting.

 

Maybe the title should've been who "pleasure hunts" in the summer.

 

I walk the dogs and sometimes catch the odd couple that's the nature of the dogs but I don't purposely hunt anything,its never really sat well with me. The thing that narks me is lads taking there 2 year old "puppy" out along with there mates adult dogs in the summer.

[kenny14 656]

The fact is, in most places this time of year the argument is a little academic when it comes to dogs as all the crops are about 4 foot high anyway.

Again, it depends what the quarry is and the method used, but I suspect the original question was meant as:

 

'Who hunts with Lurchers or Ferrets during the Summer?' and because it wasn't, it attracted mine and other hunting in Summer replies.

But are you "hunting" per se or are you performing pest control which could be construed as a vocation rather than hunting.

 

Maybe the title should've been who "pleasure hunts" in the summer.

 

I walk the dogs and sometimes catch the odd couple that's the nature of the dogs but I don't purposely hunt anything,its never really sat well with me. The thing that narks me is lads taking there 2 year old "puppy" out along with there mates adult dogs in the summer.

 

As I said johnny, I enjoy all my hunting activities, so personally I class them all as sport .

 

And I couldn't agree with you more on the puppy thing....................They're silly c***s waiting till a Dog's 2 year old, get em out as soon as they're off the titty. And if they jib, just pass them on as 'started, just needs bringing on'

Edited May 24, 2012 by kenny14