bunnys 1,228 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 bunnys whats with the rambiling on about noses this that whats that meant to mean it would need to be a good animal to predict and pick it up 100 yards away ffs haha find thst funny sorry ya didibnt get my drift , what was meant was these types dont justhunt with the noses they use there eyes also they are not hounds atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,137 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 bunnys whats with the rambiling on about noses this that whats that meant to mean it would need to be a good animal to predict and pick it up 100 yards away ffs haha find thst funny sorry ya didibnt get my drift , what was meant was these types dont justhunt with the noses they use there eyes also they are not hounds atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 watch a lab at a his mark on shoot day he has seen the game long before the gun also he marks where it fallls with the eye then his promptly sent to retrieve very good eyes those labs ya know atb bunnys. 1 Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 watch a lab at a his mark on shoot day he has seen the game long before the gun also he marks where it fallls with the eye then his promptly sent to retrieve very good eyes those labs ya know atb bunnys. well thats pretty obvious but there specialty is scenting abilities, is it not :hmm: Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 i am sure daren galagher had one for stud some yrs a back also . atb bunnys. . Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 watch a lab at a his mark on shoot day he has seen the game long before the gun also he marks where it fallls with the eye then his promptly sent to retrieve very good eyes those labs ya know atb bunnys. well thats pretty obvious but there specialty is scenting abilities, is it not :hmm: to right AMONGST ONE others such having the constition to work all day in rough conditions inbred desire to retrieve fur and feather good qualitys to add to a lurcher type for the lamper moocher . bearing in mind the othger half will be sighthound we are talking base bred type hunting companion not out and out coursing animals but like has been said one a two of aint bad at that either .atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Have lurchrs gone so far downhill that scenting ability is no longer sought after, I think a Lab has a lot more to offer than just its scenting ability, I remember 1 a very very long time ago used as a terriermans dog for bolters and awkward customers at the end of the dig, he was a lot better at his job than a lot of the bull xs that are about today of course not!!! a lurchers job is to kill what it sees and will/does/can use its nose in the process! but seriously how much "nose" does a lurcher need??? if they are hot on the scent trail of a hare with there nose down and the hare jumps up 100 meters away would you be annoyed that the dog missed the hare because its to focused on the scent??? its all hypothetical though and for every theory out there, there will be a dog to prove it wrong You would have a mixture though and as Labs air scent i doubt your scenario would be a problem. Theres plenty time a Lurcher hasn't seen the game that you have seen too..... like i said every theory can be proved right or wrong mate funny story...... about 13 years ago me and a friend went to see a farmer who had a bedlington X lakeland terrier for sale as his son had brought it but got bored so never took it out!! anyway we got to the farm and just as we were getting out the truck a great big f****r of a lab came flying out the barn, making us shut the doors double quick!!!! this thing was fooking savage it was clawing at the door to get at us, then jumped on the bonnet and was baying like a hound at the windscreen for 5 mins and finishing up on the roof trying to dig through while all this was going on the farmer and his 2 sons were stood pissing themselves!!! then the dad gives a whistle and the dog jumps off and goes and lies down on a bale of straw in the barn!!! my mate DROVE the ten meters from where we were to the 3 farmers, winds the window down and asks if it safe to get out, which we were assured it was, so we did and the lab was sound, just lying there like nothing had happened anyway we asked about the terrier and were led through a few sheds untill we came to an old pig sty with the dog in it and what a dog he looked!!! we got talking and the farmer was telling us how the terrier kept escaping and killing the yard cats, chickens and even latched on the the bull!! then the farmers son told us that a couple of weeks before the terrier and lab both f****d off together and after being missing all day one off the sons drove out to have a look for them and found them at a fox earth with the terrier in baying away and the lab digging into the terrier!!! he said he could only just see the labs tail and after 30 mins the terrier drew the fox which him and the lab killed together! me and my mate didnt really believe him at first so we asked if we could take the dog to an earth we knew on the land and try him, no problem was the reply. so we all jumped in the land rover with the terrier and then the lab jumped in, sitting next me and staring at me the whole journey when we got to earth the lab just jumped out and checked all the holes, then started acting just like it did back on the truck!!! baying like fook,digging at the entrance and ripping out roots with his teeth!! so terrier in and after 10 mins we heard him start to bay my mate brought his lurcher along and when the fox bolted, with the terrier not far behind, he slipped her on the fox! the fox was flying and it was funny as f**k watching the lurcher coursing the fox with a terrier and lab trying to keep up :laugh: the lurcher nailed the fox and with her knew found foxing friends soon behind they soon finished it off!!! me and my mate ran over and when we got there the lab had a throat hold worthy of a champion pitbull but what surprised me the most was the ferocity it showed to the fox, it really hated them with a passion!!! after the situation had calmed down the lurcher and terrier let go and then the lab started taking the fox back to the farmers at the earth!! the farmers were taking the piss saying theres no need to run over when the dog will bring it back to you :laugh: we seen that lab a few times and it was a cracking animal, even joining in the ratting that we did on the farm one day and holding his own against excellent ratting terriers!!! 2 of my Labs hate them too mate. My big dog got bitten when we came across one in one of my empty pens one winter. He was young at the time and basically he chased it into the corner, it spun around and bit him so he let it go and it escaped out the hole it came through. From that day on he rags any fox i shoot. If i snare a fox(not done for a few years) and he is with me the minute i pull the trigger he goes daft on them. I have shot a couple that have ventured of but i knew they were hit and he has found them and believe me he doesn't let go know more............ He is quite happy to retrieve them too you as well, its getting him off them that seems to be the problem........ Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 My dad 1st ever lurcher was called( shandy)he bought her from the gypsys that used to be camped not far from where he lived.The bitch was basicly lurcher to lurcher but shes had lab in her blood and my dad always said he wud never own a dog as good as her Quote Link to post
hogie 103 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 was out walking my pup the other week and an old lady called me over to ask was my pup a lurcher and would i let it run around with her dog so let mine off for a run and ask what was in her dog and she told me he was whippet/greyx lab that dog had plenty of go in him got me wondering if he would be any good at working bunnys my arm was f****d throwing the ball so much and the lady was saying he never stops always running around he was around 24tts good strong feet good bone structure and only had to be told by his owner to do something once Quote Link to post
bigdaz 688 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 why put a primarily scent hunting dog into a sighthound breeding :hmm: To produce a lurcher. Quote Link to post
bigdaz 688 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 why put a primarily scent hunting dog into a sighthound breeding :hmm: Surely you could ask a similar question about the collie but advantages could be good feet and a thicker set leg, temperment, brains and obviously retrieving abilities would be good... A good nose in anyone hunting up could be a serious advantage... i here you mate BUT maybe be to much nose for lamping etc for a general mooching/bushing dog then yes id say they be top of their game, but as alrounders No nose, no lurcher, it's as simple as that. To say you can have too much nose for lamping is mince and highlights the fact you don't know what your talking about. A well bred all round lurcher is capable of most tasks and I've seen many excellent hunting lurchers who don't put their noses to the ground when lamping. Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,892 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I've seen a few on and they have all been decent dogs Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 why put a primarily scent hunting dog into a sighthound breeding :hmm: Surely you could ask a similar question about the collie but advantages could be good feet and a thicker set leg, temperment, brains and obviously retrieving abilities would be good... A good nose in anyone hunting up could be a serious advantage... i here you mate BUT maybe be to much nose for lamping etc for a general mooching/bushing dog then yes id say they be top of their game, but as alrounders No nose, no lurcher, it's as simple as that. To say you can have too much nose for lamping is mince and highlights the fact you don't know what your talking about. A well bred all round lurcher is capable of most tasks and I've seen many excellent hunting lurchers who don't put their noses to the ground when lamping. read my post properly before you start saying what i do or dont know. i said MAYBE as when would a lamping use its nose??? Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 why put a primarily scent hunting dog into a sighthound breeding :hmm: To produce a lurcher. no shit sherlock Quote Link to post
rogue with a running dog 22 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 mine will be lab greyhound the lab being the sire, so they will be half cross, the dog is two years and is very well mannered and is proving itself in the field ill give it a while longer to make sure then will be on the look out for a greyhound bitch if i was you i would see if you can get a racing grey hound bitch that has been banned for fighting i have ran alot of them on hare and they wer top class very high prey drive Quote Link to post
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