saluki greyhound or just greyhound for lurcher base

[bird 10,014]

Once upon a time I would have said greyhound all the way but not now. Though I wouldn't say saluki cross either. What I would say is 'match dog'. Yer, saluki based but bred worker to worker for generations, dogs that kill for a living..!

What I also would say is that i've seen a few dogs bred using a full breed (i.e. Labrador) and a match dog and the results have produced racier offspring than using greyhound blood, which with a heavier breed like a lab, could be the very ticket.

 

sounds a good way to go with the coursing dog. Dont forget good working line bred labs are not all over heavy, ive seen some quite racey and plenty of guts will tackle+kill foxes no prob. This x could make very good lurcher

[sandymere 8,263]

A good lab with it’s gander up is pretty much unstoppable, seem them muller foxes. Come across the odd lab cross over the years, 1st crosses were to heavy for most jobs, 2nd crosses were pretty good. Think the reason they are not commonly seem is because the first crosses are just wastage other than their potential to then breed a 2nd cross

The lab will give stamina and intelligence so its speed your looking to add so the fastest dog is a greyhound so add the fastest. With a bit of luck if you pick the raciest bitch it will make a half decent worker that you can then breed with a saluki/greyhound hybrid to if you want.

For a lamper used for general game I’d stick to the grey first and second crosses ( ¾ grey ¼ lab) if you want to run bigger fields occasionally then I’d go for the greyhound as the first cross then a saluki/greyhound type as the second cross ( ¼ lab ¼ saluki ½ grey.

[dodger 3,587]

They make good dogs mate if you breed from the right dogs, my mate had a 1stx years ago n it took all quarry n lots of it i she was a guden, she was bred off a working lab to a big strong racing greyhound bitch that raced until she was 5 without injury, later he put a 3/4 saluki 1/4 greyhound over her and the pups were even better good hard dogs that would take stuff on any land big or small and very durable, if you did breeding similar to this and you were at the stage in the future were you had your lab grey x saluki grey, from there you wouldnt want to water the lab down anymore so you could then try n look for another lab grey x saluki grey to put over yours hope that makes sence, good luck whatever you do sure it will be worth it..

Edited April 4, 2012 by dodger

[skycat 6,174]

Adding Saluki to the mix will normally refine the offspring, make them lighter in build, whereas adding straight Greyhound often brings out more bulk. You only have to look at some (not all) first cross Collie/Greys to see how heavy some of them come out, even if the Collie parent was relatively lightly built. Like Bosun said, use a daytime dog of predominantly Saluki/Greyhound breeding, from a long line that is doing the business in the field.

 

I would never have dreamed of putting a Saluk/Grey type dog over my Airedale, but seeing how the pups from this accidental mating have turned out, I'd do it again in a flash if I wanted to replace them.

 

You won't necessarily get quite as much pure speed as if you used a pure Grey, but for all round athleticism, agility and hunting brain you will do much better.

 

Just as a matter of interest, you say that you will be using the Lab as a stud: are you intending to buy in a bitch for the purpose of breeding?

[border lad 1,047]

in the early 70s I had a 3/4 grey 1/4 lab, brilliant dog, stamina, nose, mouth, and feet, could take all edible, from stubble heather gorse, to heavy plough, to watch that dog work a turnip field, was something else he would come out, either with Hare , rabbit, or a pheasant, and grass land was a dream, the boys nicked named him Turbo,Sam, I put him over a couple of bitches, but his pups were never as good as himself, He was a proper pot filler, ((( and he never had an easy life he was worked to the full, but he could stand up to it, yes he was one of my best, a proper dog, he could jump a 6ft, stone wall with a 7lb Hare in His mouth, and he stood 26" with length, to go, and turn on a Hare, it was like if he was tyed to it, his sire was a champion coursing dog, and apparently, his bitch a first x could work to the gun, he come from Stewarts of Auckenleck,, they bred him,, you just brought back a load of great memories, thank you,

[2.8 guy 403]

sky cat yes i intend to buy a dog in for the breeding program, i dont like buying and selling dogs and the wellfare of any animal i have comes first and no matter what happens the bitch that gets bought in will be of good quality proven and as of this will be of a age were its fine to breed from at least if you breed your own stuff you have only got yourself to blame if they dont turn out

[freelance 448]

Once upon a time I would have said greyhound all the way but not now. Though I wouldn't say saluki cross either. What I would say is 'match dog'. Yer, saluki based but bred worker to worker for generations, dogs that kill for a living..!

What I also would say is that i've seen a few dogs bred using a full breed (i.e. Labrador) and a match dog and the results have produced racier offspring than using greyhound blood, which with a heavier breed like a lab, could be the very ticket.

I have to agree with bosun, years ago i would of said just a pure grey, but now with the way match dogs are bred and the good bloodlines. They can bring so much more to the table with good feet natural wind ect its the way forward but thats just my opinion

[dodger 3,587]

Once upon a time I would have said greyhound all the way but not now. Though I wouldn't say saluki cross either. What I would say is 'match dog'. Yer, saluki based but bred worker to worker for generations, dogs that kill for a living..!

What I also would say is that i've seen a few dogs bred using a full breed (i.e. Labrador) and a match dog and the results have produced racier offspring than using greyhound blood, which with a heavier breed like a lab, could be the very ticket.

I have to agree with bosun, years ago i would of said just a pure grey, but now with the way match dogs are bred and the good bloodlines. They can bring so much more to the table with good feet natural wind ect its the way forward but thats just my opinion

I think it would be a good idea but not over the full lab imo, over a 1st x yeh i think a saluki x could gell well, but also dont forget most match dogs are saluki lurchers ie lots of stuff in them which even if linebred those other breeds can surface when bred therefore could throw alsortes over a totally different breed, a saluki lurcher put back to a saluki over a 1stx lab grey could be a safer cleaner bet if you were goin down that road imo.. Edited April 4, 2012 by dodger