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I agree and have said just that on other threads, they certainly do capatilise on people's fear. However that's no reason to think that there no threat out there. Cause there most certainly is. You only need to look at 7/7

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The country had no money   Don't f*****g stop them squandering what we do have left on foreign aid and stupid schemes to juggle the unemployment figures. Not even gonna touch on the over inflated sa

Cheers, funny how bin laden was killed just as they were talking about pulling out - present the face of the enemy to appease the citizens. 9/11 was very personal to most yanks, it was closure of so

You'd think so wouldn't you...   Illuminate crap lol, let me give you an example of my mindframe...   We all have our own 'cliques'. I'm an ex squaddie, so most other squaddies are in mine.   H

did they do it for nothing then,or did they have to pay people to move it about when they could have left it as it was please explain further

 

Im sure they have to pay some one to make it happen as it wont do it its self. Weather or not these people would have been paid to do this or another job anyway i dont know, ive no idea if they had to hire extra staff or not, but id imagine the costs involved would be pitance with regards to every day government expendature. Im not sure how youd expect me to know either tbh ...

 

PJ i agree with you on alot of stuff especially the internet bill. You dont let a copper follow you around your house all day to make sure your not up to anything so he shouldnt be able to do the technological equivalent. I agree there must be a shit load of back scratching aswell but you always imply theres more to it than that. Why would Obama sit on inteligence that he knew were Osama was? Just so when he was about to pull out he could go and kill him for some kind of media stunt? Im seeing alot of dots and youve joined em all up and made the New World Order.

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did they do it for nothing then,or did they have to pay people to move it about when they could have left it as it was please explain further

 

Im sure they have to pay some one to make it happen as it wont do it its self. Weather or not these people would have been paid to do this or another job anyway i dont know, ive no idea if they had to hire extra staff or not, but id imagine the costs involved would be pitance with regards to every day government expendature. Im not sure how youd expect me to know either tbh ...

 

PJ i agree with you on alot of stuff especially the internet bill. You dont let a copper follow you around your house all day to make sure your not up to anything so he shouldnt be able to do the technological equivalent. I agree there must be a shit load of back scratching aswell but you always imply theres more to it than that. Why would Obama sit on inteligence that he knew were Osama was? Just so when he was about to pull out he could go and kill him for some kind of media stunt? Im seeing alot of dots and youve joined em all up and made the New World Order.

 

Good post Buch :thumbs:

 

Nice pictures of Obama looking at something weren't they?

I'd rather not talk about Osama if you don't mind...

 

But if you must know, who's to say he wasn't already dead? Conveniently waited until the maximum political leverage could be gained, then 'We got him!!!'

Not so much 'conspiracy', as 'common sense' and 'strategic thinking'. Capitalising on an opportunity.

That's the last I'll say on that subject.

 

I'm implying there's more from a human perspective - money is the big one.

 

If you want to talk about the new world order, check out the usual suspects; Obama, Bush, Blair, Brown...

Every one of them caught on camera saying those exact words to their respective nations :D

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I hope your not taking the piss! :D

 

I suppose its totaly possable that he was already dead but why wouldnt "al Qaeda" have said hed been dead years? They crashed a top secret helecopter into a wall for nothing aswell. haha

 

I think people would find it hard to prove it was a case of divide and conquer. I dont buy the papers, i dont own a TV so how exacaly does some one brainwash me? I believe what i believe because of the way ive been brought up with the values my family and i share. If i could live in Buchtopia were it was me and those im arsed about i would in a heart beat. Unfortunatly i cant so i have to make do and live with people who are quite happy to threaten to bring the country to its knees because "45k a year isnt enough".

 

Has any one every thought that it could just be a ploy by Labour (who always have and always will be in bed with the Unions) to make life hard for the torries who are riding fairly comfortably in the poles?

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Scot - what i meant mate, is that what we are facing for the large part are a bunch of angry nutters whohave got most of their ideas from watching you tube. Not, some kind of Dr Evil style 'empire of evil' shit. Well there is that, but they aren't reallt the ones sticking bombs on buses etc. At the higher level, i'm a scared of our government as any other, or not even the government, but those who pull the strings.

 

But f**k it let nuclear war and ze end come. Where i live should be ok, i'll just chill out here with my ferrets and start a new civilization, i will start by getting 12 followers, i've already got john, just need the rest now :laugh:

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I hope your not taking the piss! :D

 

I suppose its totaly possable that he was already dead but why wouldnt "al Qaeda" have said hed been dead years? They crashed a top secret helecopter into a wall for nothing aswell. haha

 

I think people would find it hard to prove it was a case of divide and conquer. I dont buy the papers, i dont own a TV so how exacaly does some one brainwash me? I believe what i believe because of the way ive been brought up with the values my family and i share. If i could live in Buchtopia were it was me and those im arsed about i would in a heart beat. Unfortunatly i cant so i have to make do and live with people who are quite happy to threaten to bring the country to its knees because "45k a year isnt enough".

 

Has any one every thought that it could just be a ploy by Labour (who always have and always will be in bed with the Unions) to make life hard for the torries who are riding fairly comfortably in the poles?

 

I hope you're not taking the piss about not having a TV :D I envy you!

 

I wasn't joking, check it out...

 

Why would al qaeda admit anything if it isn't propaganda for them?

 

No one met the man after 9/11 really, so would it have been that difficult?

 

''45k isn't enough''...... Sounds alot like the government and councils excuse for robbing us blind....

 

So what would Buchtopia be like then? Why can't you live there? ''I have to put up with'' - is that what we were born for? To be subjected to a forced set of values?

If I never hurt anyone, what would be wrong with me not having a tv licence, not having a car licence, not paying road tax (which, by the way, doesn't even pay for the roads)?

 

Article 4 I believe of the Human Rights - forced slavery. If you read it carefully it describes how we live at the moment. Forced under threat of punishment to take part in a society that is failed.

 

Would you like it if Sharia law was imposed tomorrow?

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did they do it for nothing then,or did they have to pay people to move it about when they could have left it as it was please explain further

 

Im sure they have to pay some one to make it happen as it wont do it its self. Weather or not these people would have been paid to do this or another job anyway i dont know, ive no idea if they had to hire extra staff or not, but id imagine the costs involved would be pitance with regards to every day government expendature. Im not sure how youd expect me to know either tbh ...

 

PJ i agree with you on alot of stuff especially the internet bill. You dont let a copper follow you around your house all day to make sure your not up to anything so he shouldnt be able to do the technological equivalent. I agree there must be a shit load of back scratching aswell but you always imply theres more to it than that. Why would Obama sit on inteligence that he knew were Osama was? Just so when he was about to pull out he could go and kill him for some kind of media stunt? Im seeing alot of dots and youve joined em all up and made the New World Order.

waste is waste which ever way you look at it,maybe the reason even after all the cuts the torys will spend more running the country than labour did makes you think dont it

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Obama played the race card and won he uses it at every opportunity very low key , his hatred of Britain is concealed he has been caught on more than one occasion holding the Koran this in its self no crime , he canceled a christian celebration at a resent military academy sighting it as provocative , he would not and did not condem the killing of military personal by a marine officer of Muslim faith , very worrying from the leader of the last western superpower !

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If this is successful then I can see a lot of other people starting to strike with the added confidence of others joining to add support and add their own issues.

 

The first step on a journey is the longest :yes:

 

This isn't just our problem it's worldwide...

 

Look at the Arab Spring and see how many countries followed suit after being sick to death of all the years of criminal mistreatment.

 

Ok PJ Arab Spring,

Right our Goverments backed these uprisings basicaly saying the Population of these Countrys have spoke and wwant change.

In Truth they probably backed these uprisings because they thought there was something in it for them , OIL ?

Back on track.

So what if the British Population spoke ?

What if the British Population took to the streets in Protest of Taxes, Food Prices, Fuel Prices, Gas-leccy Prices.

Dishonest Politicians, Corrupt Politicians, Greedy Politicians, The Unfair system they have created, ect ect

Would they listen to what the people of Britain asked for ?

If they did not listen forcing folk to take to the streets as in the Arab countries would they use the force arab leaders have used which they vilified ?

 

European Spring , British Spring, Caucassian Spring ?

 

I cant see it for some reason.

 

I don't think most people could imagine it mate, we come across as weak citizens when compared to, for example, the French. Too many lazy and apathetic people who wouldn't lift a finger even if they believed something had to be done.

 

Yes they would use force, can you really imagine either the government or the monarchy letting their investments slip through their fat greasy fingers? Neither can I.

 

Did Gaddafi hand over power? Assad? Any country from Tunisia to Egypt, if the leaders use force then they get punished simple as.

 

I also believe that whilst most see the police/army as 'the enemy', if we were to include them in the issue, I like to think we are more civilised than the Arabs. Do you think normal coppers, fathers etc would do as they are told? Maybe for a while but they will also fight back against tyranny, as we saw in Syria and Libya - large parts of their armies defected to support the civilians.

 

Max, if they said tomorrow ''Right, from now on all your communications will be monitored all the time, more CCTV will be installed watching your every move, private firearm ownership is banned, you can be arrested at any time and held indefinitely'' etc etc, would you continue to sit there? Or do something about it?

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Bit late bud you every move is monitored your on it and own the best tracking devise that they don't even need a court order to follow , CCTV in ever town city , motorway camera system that can tell the GOVERMENT if you car has passed through reg recognition lol big brother been baby siting for fooooking years and we sat back and let it happen

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