Phantom 631 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Yesterday I had the great pleasure of meeting Woodworm1972, a new shooter who has had a little instruction from the good guy's at H&DHFTC on the indoor range. Now Woodworm, was a little bit 'unsure' of the "Hunting" aspect; but certainly see's the need for control of certain species and was indeed willing to give it a go at doing so especially after seeing in person the damage in my Cemetery permission! added to that, he was brought up on a farm so understands the problems and cost of crop damage associated with certain vermin species Woodworm picked me up from my apartment and we drove to my permission. We arrived and I took him on a quick tour of the damage caused by the bunnies, pointing out the warrens and runs etc. As we got the gear out of the car, the schoolies began appearing! Most of which are used to me being there at that time of day so didn't really bother looking. As usual, during the day, I fastend my "Warning" (Must change that to "Caution") sign to the gates and we went to the new part to begin to zero the guns. We had a couple of visitors to graves so as a common courtesy we had to give them privacy (it's usually only a few minutes) and I really felt for one of the visitors who I had not met before although I have often paid my respects to the grave, she was putting some flowers on her son's grave (he was about two years old when he died ) While we waited, we watched a mating pair of Magpies on the ground and on the older monuments. As we had not checked zero yet, it wasn't worth taking the risk. Woodworm's gun was Zeroed previously for the indoor range however we were now outdoors and at a thirty yard range of the paper targets. I gave a little instruction on using his free hand fist to raise and lower the gun and Woodworm fired the first shot prone, using a monopod. The shot landed almost exactly where I expected it to Windage was absolutely spot on, elevation was a little low. I instructed Woodworm to turn the elevation dial on his scope up by 8 clicks before the next shot. After the adjustment, Woodworm reloaded and gently pressed the trigger and the shot landed almost perfectly in line with the bull, just a touch lower (the wind had changed direction as is usual in this area of the Humber and the Hills). Looking at the hole in the card, I sugested another four clicks elevation adjustment (although I was thinking three would perhaps be spot on) The next shot that Woodworm took, totally anihalated the dot in the centre of the Bullseye YEEHAAAHH Very nice shooting indeed especially considdering the wind was (as ever) very squally as he pressed the trigger. I loaded some CPUM's into my baby and let them go, Each of the five shots I took, landed a decreasing few millimeters from the previous and a single pellet width closer to the Bullseye. Once I had a couple of shots in the Bull I knew I was in her sweetspot and she would do me proud I then changed pellets to the Crosman Premier Hollow Points simply because I wanted to know if there was a noticable change in POI versus POA on the paper as these "Hollow Points" are remarkably different from the usual design of a Hollow Point/Wad Cutter. The Crosman Premier Hollow Points have a very slight hole drilled into the dome, where as most hollow points are flat with a section drilled out or flanged with a section drilled out! The Crosman Premier Hollow Points are basically the same as the Ultra Magnum pellets but with a very slight (1/3rd of the diameter), sharp cone drilled in the dome of the head. Two thirds of the dome remains! The next few shots I took produced about an 8mm one hole group (same as the CPUM's) and I was thrilled with the flight charectoristics matching the full domed Ultra Mags Given the size and depth of the hollowpoint, it seemes that it does not deviate barely at all from the full dome flight charectoristics AWSOME! Anyways Woodworm followed his previous skill and placed all 10/20 pellets within the black 2/3rd's of an inch almost removing all the black from the 10Meter target (at 30 yards) And for those who think thats not too bad, His scope is a 3.5(ish) by 40mm! with a 30/30 ret So if any of those shots had been on a Corvid, Bunny, Woodie or Dove, it would have produced an exceptionally clean switch off it appears we have a natural Marksman on our hands gentlemen Later we wandered around the Cemy and up to the Paddock, Woodworm took to this like a fish to water I have taken a few people out with me, mostly my mate Joss, who can not sit still or move slowly or keep his mush shut for more than a couple of seconds at a time Woodworm is a natural hunter, with natural fieldcraft skill's He was quiet (I only heard a couple of twigs break), his eyes were everywhere, he could see bunnies out at to 100 yards that I could only see theough the scope! (eye test next week for me!) Unfortunately we had to cut the trip short as I had forgotten to take the lamps! and although we blanked I think that (judging by the text message I recieved) Woodworm had a fairly good time as indeed did I. It was a pleasure to meet him and I didn't need to worry about having to teaching him the dark art of fieldcraft as he is indeed a natural We will do it again another time and we will both bag up Tony 2 Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Nice one Tony,always nice to share ones knowledge with others and to meet new people with the same interests. I'm off out in a minute,I'm going to have a farm mooch.Will hopefully have something to post later. 1 Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Nice write up Tony, can see you and Woodworm boring your way through those bunnies (boring as in what woodworm do by the way not as in sending to sleep boring). I am glad another member on here likes the Crosmans as much as I do! I only use the UM pellets now, other pellets have left me feeling cheated when I have slung nearly half a tin in my smelting pot for converting into lead fishing lures! Next time remember the torches though! 1 Quote Link to post
Woodworm1972 24 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 It was an enlightening evening, to see the damage the carrot crunchers were doing first hand was certainly a mind changer. I had previously had some reservations regarding the taking of rabbits, but after seeing people's lost loved ones head stones leaning over to a dangerous level as a direct result of the rabbits (vermin) certainly cleared out mixed feelings. Hopefully in time I can gain the confidence in my "equipment" to take those long distance shots without causing unnecessary suffering to the trouble causers. The instruction you gave phantom helped greatly and also made me realise the need for a focusable scope rather that the fixed one. I'm sure to be following the forum topics relating to scope selection in the future. Cheers Tony 1 Quote Link to post
Woodworm1972 24 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Nice write up Tony, can see you and Woodworm boring your way through those bunnies (boring as in what woodworm do by the way not as in sending to sleep boring). I am glad another member on here likes the Crosmans as much as I do! I only use the UM pellets now, other pellets have left me feeling cheated when I have slung nearly half a tin in my smelting pot for converting into lead fishing lures! Next time remember the torches though! I used some crossman's myself last evening (ultra magnums) 14.3g, they flew very well, money well spent. 1 Quote Link to post
StevoSmith 147 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Excellent write up Tony....seemed you two boys had a great understanding with your rifles in challenging conditions.....keep it up guys have have some great sport bunny bashing....pic's next time please Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) My (current) glasses are four years old now and when I say Woodworm saw bunnies that I could only see through the scope, I wasn't joking Luckily I have booked an eye test for next Tuesday so hopefully once I have the contacts fitted, my eyesight will be back to normalish! Two yars ago I could see the cottontails and ears of thoe buggers without straining, yesterday just said my eyes a re fecked! I did try a "Long Shot" yesterday the sidefocus of the MK4 said 90 yards, my eye told me 80ish yards. So when the wind was almost non existant I aimed (at 3.5 mag) halfway down the post of the scope off to the right of the bunny. Pressed the trigger and waited! The bunny obviously heard the pellet pass or impact to the right as he didn't half move! Now before y'awl start crying "That was a freaking stupid shot to take " I deliberately aimed to the right of the target! The pellet landed somewhere off to the right, Bugs gave it kegs to the left, it was obviouse that old bugs either heard it whizz past him to the right,or heard it impact the ground to the right. Either way it shows that CGP is reasonably accurate at long distance modeling of pellet trajectories Now I need to get back and calibrate this scope properly for 10 mag, 5 mag and 3.5mag Tony Edited March 31, 2012 by Phantom Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Did you remember to take the mallet and wooden stakes Quote Link to post
Daz 7 563 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Nice Write up and and Good on You Tony bud giving your Experience to Newer shooters Even if it was a Blank the Knowledge and actually being out shooting will be a good experience from the Target range and to see live Quarry in their element is Spot on bud . atvb Daz 7. 1 Quote Link to post
Woodworm1972 24 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Even though we blanked, it was a good night, I learnt a fair bit and also was able to do some onsite research into what a particular range (distance) looks like. I know in my years as a fresh water angler, you don't always get the fish but it's good to try. 1 Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Already made plans for next visit Daz I shall make sure the laps are charged Quote Link to post
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