BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 first i best start by saying im not really into shows but why does the above take place at most of them you see on here??? surly it creates a divided between "them and us" type people on both sides!!! you get fine looking speciems in all Xs so why not throw them altogether in over 23in or under 23in just seems pointless and stupid to me, they are just lurchers as much as any other cross and dont deserve any special treatment Hey I'm quite happy for there to be a "them and us"!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,929 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 keeps all the knobs in the one place do you have to be a knob to own a bullx ? very steriotypical no you don't have to be a knob to own a bull cross, but he's saying all the knobs own one, which is pretty much bang on! Sorry , don`t believe this at all,, quite a few round my way run big deerhound x`s Bull x`s are not for me,, at all, but fuckme I`ve seen some stunning looking ones!!! real beauties! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Well the lad dose have a good point.They are all classed as lurchers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin 332 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 first i best start by saying im not really into shows but why does the above take place at most of them you see on here??? surly it creates a divided between "them and us" type people on both sides!!! you get fine looking speciems in all Xs so why not throw them altogether in over 23in or under 23in just seems pointless and stupid to me, they are just lurchers as much as any other cross and dont deserve any special treatment It's to keep them away from real running dogs.....lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,593 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 keeps all the knobs in the one place do you have to be a knob to own a bullx ? very steriotypical no you don't have to be a knob to own a bull cross, but he's saying all the knobs own one, which is pretty much bang on! Sorry , don`t believe this at all,, quite a few round my way run big deerhound x`s Bull x`s are not for me,, at all, but fuckme I`ve seen some stunning looking ones!!! real beauties! I agree, shame they seem to attract a certain type of person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,769 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 keeps all the knobs in the one place do you have to be a knob to own a bullx ? very steriotypical no you don't have to be a knob to own a bull cross, but he's saying all the knobs own one, which is pretty much bang on! Sorry , don`t believe this at all,, quite a few round my way run big deerhound x`s Bull x`s are not for me,, at all, but fuckme I`ve seen some stunning looking ones!!! real beauties! I agree, shame they seem to attract a certain type of person. Me :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,769 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 is lurcher isnt a set shape but has certain conformatities that should be looked for when judging and unfortunately alot of bullxs especially halfxs and even some 1/4s just dont match upto that so they have there own class because you look for different characteristics. judging a bullx next to a whippet is like putting a shitzu in with great danes I don't believe im doing this but...... Spot on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,929 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 is lurcher isnt a set shape but has certain conformatities that should be looked for when judging and unfortunately alot of bullxs especially halfxs and even some 1/4s just dont match upto that so they have there own class because you look for different characteristics. judging a bullx next to a whippet is like putting a shitzu in with great danes I don't believe im doing this but...... Spot on You agreed with 4567891011121314 Oh my god,,,who does that?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher2020 285 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Bull are a different shape to your typical lurcher and need judged differently but heres something to think about take small dogs they arent in the same class as big dogs but your not fussed about that or what about smooth and rough coats being in different classes so why have a dig about the bulls and also there are bull x classes because some shows have qualifiers for edrd ect which have bull x championship Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,172 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) Most judges wouldn't give a bull cross a second glance, that is why they have their own classes. Unless we are talking about 3/4 Grey, 1/4 Bull, most Bull crosses would be considered too heavily built to merit a rosette. First cross Collie/Greys are in the same boat: no one would look twice at them either in a show ring. When most judges are looking for sighthound lookalikes, shorter, heavier or less streamlined dogs are out on their ears. Showing is all about elegance, dainty, racehorse type animals, which is probably why there aren't many workers seen inside a show ring. Oh, and predominantly Saluki types don't often get a look in either as there is still a lot of prejudice against them: why I haven't the faintest idea. Edited March 17, 2012 by skycat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Isn't the idea of the independant shows (not those that travel the country like a straw bale roadshow) to raise money for local hunts and or terrier / lurcher clubs? Get as many classes in as possible and get the quids rolling in, local hunt and club shows provide much needed funds. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,593 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 is lurcher isnt a set shape but has certain conformatities that should be looked for when judging and unfortunately alot of bullxs especially halfxs and even some 1/4s just dont match upto that so they have there own class because you look for different characteristics. judging a bullx next to a whippet is like putting a shitzu in with great danes I don't believe im doing this but...... Spot on I thought you were sensible, you need to get to bed Moll, you're all delirious!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 think skycat and strong stuff sum it up nicely 123456 please tell me what " certain conformatities" a bull cross doesnt have that other types do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 first i best start by saying im not really into shows but why does the above take place at most of them you see on here??? surly it creates a divided between "them and us" type people on both sides!!! you get fine looking speciems in all Xs so why not throw them altogether in over 23in or under 23in just seems pointless and stupid to me, they are just lurchers as much as any other cross and dont deserve any special treatment You wouldn't want to comb and clean your dog all day to get beaten of a bullx now would you.......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Bull are a different shape to your typical lurcher and need judged differently but heres something to think about take small dogs they arent in the same class as big dogs but your not fussed about that or what about smooth and rough coats being in different classes so why have a dig about the bulls and also there are bull x classes because some shows have qualifiers for edrd ect which have bull x championship well as for big,small,rough or smooth i didnt think i had to mention that as its pretty standard that they will be split up in to separate classes a 3/8s 5/8s collie can easily be a very similar size/shape/type to a 3/8s 5/8s bull so why cant they be judged together??? think most are just scared of big bad bull cross owners tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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