GREYHOUND BLOOD DAN AND SPEEDIE LETS HEAR IT

[Guest Sorley Boys clan]

Greyhound blood i think what they are saying has no place in the modern lurcher/coarsing dog... i think it does

Edited March 15, 2012 by Sorley Boys clan

[Ideation 8,217]

To be honest i agree with dan. If you have a good line of lurcher to lurcher dogs and there are a few good lines similar about, you are never gonna need a greyhound and like the man said its going backwards. But fact is in this country and probably most, most folk don't have such a line, or know anyone who does. So a greyhound is needed to start one.

[Guest Sorley Boys clan]

i dont think there is such a thing as a line someone always brings in a pure to keep it moving forward

Edited March 15, 2012 by Sorley Boys clan

[Irish Lurcher 1,013]

i dont think there is such a thing as a line someone always brings in a pure to keep it moving forward

 

bang on sorley, am thinking of doing same myself.

[bird 10,014]

To be honest i agree with dan. If you have a good line of lurcher to lurcher dogs and there are a few good lines similar about, you are never gonna need a greyhound and like the man said its going backwards. But fact is in this country and probably most, most folk don't have such a line, or know anyone who does. So a greyhound is needed to start one.

 

spot on , thats what i said on the other post.You need a greyhound to start your line, and it will be a 1x greyhound where you start from.! And as above when you got a good line going say over 20 years, and if they keep the speed+agilty wind good great . And dont forget most greyhounds are game dogs that will tackle most quarry, so its not just speed you are adding .!

[DEERMAN 1,020]

i disagree ,

To be honest i agree with dan. If you have a good line of lurcher to lurcher dogs and there are a few good lines similar about, you are never gonna need a greyhound and like the man said its going backwards. But fact is in this country and probably most, most folk don't have such a line, or know anyone who does. So a greyhound is needed to start one.

 

spot on , thats what i said on the other post.You need a greyhound to start your line, and it will be a 1x greyhound where you start from.! And as above when you got a good line going say over 20 years, and if they keep the speed+agilty wind good great . And dont forget most greyhounds are game dogs that will tackle most quarry, so its not just speed you are adding .!

i disagree all greyhounds bring is speed ,greyhoundy lurchers or 3/4 greyhound type dont last night in night out, ,just my view and experence of this type .

[Sherlock 42]

Greyhounds bring in everything you do not want in a lurcher, ie thin skin poor coat bad feet no stamina poor nose and no brain. All the greyhound is good for is speed and size.

[brendy mc l 694]

no need to go back to the grey hound there enough lurchers out there with plenty of speed in them if you were going to use a pure bred saluki to breed with

[BEARINATOR 2,924]

i dont think there is such a thing as a line someone always brings in a pure to keep it moving forward

 

bang on sorley, am thinking of doing same myself.

 

Would you need a working dog or bitch mate

 

 

no need to go back to the grey hound there enough lurchers out there with plenty of speed in them if you were going to use a pure bred saluki to breed with

 

A fecking Saluki

 

Only kidding Brendy but I would never have another one

[brendy mc l 694]

i ment if i was going to breed a pure saluki bitch i would not go all the way back to a greyhound there is plenty of fast lurchers out there to breed from

[BEARINATOR 2,924]

i ment if i was going to breed a pure saluki bitch i would not go all the way back to a greyhound there is plenty of fast lurchers out there to breed from

 

Got you now Brendy

[MR BROOK 165]

The onething you seem to be forgetting is when line breeding , is the need to be selective in what you bring in, & as many people dont no whats in there dogs.

Going back to pure blood is the only way, & for me thats greyhound eveytime

[sandymere 8,263]

To my mind the occasional return to the root of all lurchers is a good idea. Greyhounds bring unseen physiological advantages such as the increased heart size and higher red blood cell ratios to allow the athletic body to perform beyond the norm. I don’t know of a line of lurchers that are culled to only allow the one in a hundred most supreme amongst them to continue the line but without such a strict breeding strategy then there will always be the risk that over time the physiological improvements will be reduced. Say there is collie in the line, now and again the collie genetics will come into play and give a smaller heart etc. If the animal is bred from it will continue the trend, in time this will lead to detriment of the line in general. Adding greyhound blood now and again helps to keep the right genetic make up to avert this, athleticism is not just skin deep.

[Bosun11 537]

I'm most certainly with Dan & Idea (the hippy) on this one. I'd always look to a fast, proven lurcher before any greyhound. There is enough good stock out there, real fast types, dogs that have proven themselves generation after generation in the field, killing for a living.

 

Yer, greyhounds were the baseline but we should have long moved on in lurcher production and make that effort in choosing new blood more carefully. That old addage that 'any old greyhound will do', is total tripe in this day and age!

 

Ok, if you are looking for a genuine first cross dog then a greyhound could/would be prefferable but i've seen a few first cross dogs where the speed side came from good match stock and I was very surprised. One lives next door!

 

As someone who has ran first crosses for enough years, i'd never add greyhound blood to my dogs simply to increase speed.

[poacher3161 1,766]

Fine and fast with feet like glass run them hard and they wont last.The type of lurchers you can get by adding more greyhound blood.