PlasticJock 539 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ratreeper, as I've said, I can accept that it may have been a load of crap.... But neither you nor anyone will convince me that he guessed the other guys name. Ever. Completely impossible!!! I wouldn't pay any psychics for anything, as a rule I don't believe in them either and think most are out to take advantage and line their own pockets, and as you say, they couldn't care less how they went about it. However, as no one can prove beyond reasonable doubt whether this was genuine or not either way, I'll keep an open mind, and I'm sure most others will choose to stick their heads in the sand and refuse to believe that there are perfectly natural things that we simply don't understand at the moment... Science has the answer it's just a matter of time If this were 500 years ago, I'd be telling you that the earth wasn't flat I like how you are hoping there might be a small chance that this medium can talk to the dead mate... :thumbs: But i reckon Ratreeper covered it all pretty bang on. I'll only add why did the medium say the lads first name only? Why if he/she was talking to the dead would the name not come through as "John Smith from 21 Broom Avenue in Blackpool, married to Sheila and have 2 kids called Chloe and David??" I'm sorry mate but its the cold reading that does it. We all give of signs without even knowing it and these mediums prey on that and use it to there advantage. Theres a woman who does the rounds about here. Cant remember her name but seemingly she comes to your house and you get a group of folk to pay and she gives a personal reading. I've always fancied trying to see if she could tell me anything that i would only know but i'd be worried at the end of the reading i started laughing and told her "what a load of shite!!".......... I don't hope anything lab... In fact even though I'm interested in it all the worst thing I can think of is to find out you still hang around this sh*thole after your dead If you're dead, and I'm asking you about something, would you refer to a person how you knew them, or tell me their full name, address, NI number etc etc??? The family didn't even know the injured guys name, so what he said (and I wasn't there) was impossible, end of. No cold reading, no slips of the tongue, in fact they didn't realise the significance of what he'd said until about a week later, when they found out. We've all seen Derren following that idiot from Liverpool who was locally famous, who asked the audience questions, got answers then repeated them 5 minutes later to gasps from everyone in the room!!! I'll keep an open mind either way, I'll be happy whether it's proven once and for all or disproven beyond any doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigbarnett 33 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 load of boll.cks, just something for some goths to get worried out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ratreeper, as I've said, I can accept that it may have been a load of crap.... But neither you nor anyone will convince me that he guessed the other guys name. Ever. Completely impossible!!! I wouldn't pay any psychics for anything, as a rule I don't believe in them either and think most are out to take advantage and line their own pockets, and as you say, they couldn't care less how they went about it. However, as no one can prove beyond reasonable doubt whether this was genuine or not either way, I'll keep an open mind, and I'm sure most others will choose to stick their heads in the sand and refuse to believe that there are perfectly natural things that we simply don't understand at the moment... Science has the answer it's just a matter of time If this were 500 years ago, I'd be telling you that the earth wasn't flat I like how you are hoping there might be a small chance that this medium can talk to the dead mate... :thumbs: But i reckon Ratreeper covered it all pretty bang on. I'll only add why did the medium say the lads first name only? Why if he/she was talking to the dead would the name not come through as "John Smith from 21 Broom Avenue in Blackpool, married to Sheila and have 2 kids called Chloe and David??" I'm sorry mate but its the cold reading that does it. We all give of signs without even knowing it and these mediums prey on that and use it to there advantage. Theres a woman who does the rounds about here. Cant remember her name but seemingly she comes to your house and you get a group of folk to pay and she gives a personal reading. I've always fancied trying to see if she could tell me anything that i would only know but i'd be worried at the end of the reading i started laughing and told her "what a load of shite!!".......... I don't hope anything lab... In fact even though I'm interested in it all the worst thing I can think of is to find out you still hang around this sh*thole after your dead If you're dead, and I'm asking you about something, would you refer to a person how you knew them, or tell me their full name, address, NI number etc etc??? The family didn't even know the injured guys name, so what he said (and I wasn't there) was impossible, end of. No cold reading, no slips of the tongue, in fact they didn't realise the significance of what he'd said until about a week later, when they found out. We've all seen Derren following that idiot from Liverpool who was locally famous, who asked the audience questions, got answers then repeated them 5 minutes later to gasps from everyone in the room!!! I'll keep an open mind either way, I'll be happy whether it's proven once and for all or disproven beyond any doubt. I think if i was dead and i was communicating through someone that i didnt know trying to contact someone that he didnt know i reckon i would be pretty precise. For example if i died and someone from my friend/family were in a hall trying to contact me i wouldn't be saying my name id be saying "see that person sitting 3 rows from the front and 2 in?, id like to speak to him/her please"....... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ratreeper, as I've said, I can accept that it may have been a load of crap.... But neither you nor anyone will convince me that he guessed the other guys name. Ever. Completely impossible!!! I wouldn't pay any psychics for anything, as a rule I don't believe in them either and think most are out to take advantage and line their own pockets, and as you say, they couldn't care less how they went about it. However, as no one can prove beyond reasonable doubt whether this was genuine or not either way, I'll keep an open mind, and I'm sure most others will choose to stick their heads in the sand and refuse to believe that there are perfectly natural things that we simply don't understand at the moment... Science has the answer it's just a matter of time If this were 500 years ago, I'd be telling you that the earth wasn't flat I like how you are hoping there might be a small chance that this medium can talk to the dead mate... :thumbs: But i reckon Ratreeper covered it all pretty bang on. I'll only add why did the medium say the lads first name only? Why if he/she was talking to the dead would the name not come through as "John Smith from 21 Broom Avenue in Blackpool, married to Sheila and have 2 kids called Chloe and David??" I'm sorry mate but its the cold reading that does it. We all give of signs without even knowing it and these mediums prey on that and use it to there advantage. Theres a woman who does the rounds about here. Cant remember her name but seemingly she comes to your house and you get a group of folk to pay and she gives a personal reading. I've always fancied trying to see if she could tell me anything that i would only know but i'd be worried at the end of the reading i started laughing and told her "what a load of shite!!".......... I don't hope anything lab... In fact even though I'm interested in it all the worst thing I can think of is to find out you still hang around this sh*thole after your dead If you're dead, and I'm asking you about something, would you refer to a person how you knew them, or tell me their full name, address, NI number etc etc??? The family didn't even know the injured guys name, so what he said (and I wasn't there) was impossible, end of. No cold reading, no slips of the tongue, in fact they didn't realise the significance of what he'd said until about a week later, when they found out. We've all seen Derren following that idiot from Liverpool who was locally famous, who asked the audience questions, got answers then repeated them 5 minutes later to gasps from everyone in the room!!! I'll keep an open mind either way, I'll be happy whether it's proven once and for all or disproven beyond any doubt. I think if i was dead and i was communicating through someone that i didnt know trying to contact someone that he didnt know i reckon i would be pretty precise. For example if i died and someone from my friend/family were in a hall trying to contact me i wouldn't be saying my name id be saying "see that person sitting 3 rows from the front and 2 in?, id like to speak to him/her please"....... He knew who he was contacting, they were right there and there was only 3 people in the room ;' He wasn't trying to contact the injured lad, only told what happened after he died. So telling a story like that, if you knew it to be true because you've seen it, there's never a need to be that precise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Ratreeper, as I've said, I can accept that it may have been a load of crap.... But neither you nor anyone will convince me that he guessed the other guys name. Ever. Completely impossible!!! I wouldn't pay any psychics for anything, as a rule I don't believe in them either and think most are out to take advantage and line their own pockets, and as you say, they couldn't care less how they went about it. However, as no one can prove beyond reasonable doubt whether this was genuine or not either way, I'll keep an open mind, and I'm sure most others will choose to stick their heads in the sand and refuse to believe that there are perfectly natural things that we simply don't understand at the moment... Science has the answer it's just a matter of time If this were 500 years ago, I'd be telling you that the earth wasn't flat I like how you are hoping there might be a small chance that this medium can talk to the dead mate... :thumbs: But i reckon Ratreeper covered it all pretty bang on. I'll only add why did the medium say the lads first name only? Why if he/she was talking to the dead would the name not come through as "John Smith from 21 Broom Avenue in Blackpool, married to Sheila and have 2 kids called Chloe and David??" I'm sorry mate but its the cold reading that does it. We all give of signs without even knowing it and these mediums prey on that and use it to there advantage. Theres a woman who does the rounds about here. Cant remember her name but seemingly she comes to your house and you get a group of folk to pay and she gives a personal reading. I've always fancied trying to see if she could tell me anything that i would only know but i'd be worried at the end of the reading i started laughing and told her "what a load of shite!!".......... I don't hope anything lab... In fact even though I'm interested in it all the worst thing I can think of is to find out you still hang around this sh*thole after your dead If you're dead, and I'm asking you about something, would you refer to a person how you knew them, or tell me their full name, address, NI number etc etc??? The family didn't even know the injured guys name, so what he said (and I wasn't there) was impossible, end of. No cold reading, no slips of the tongue, in fact they didn't realise the significance of what he'd said until about a week later, when they found out. We've all seen Derren following that idiot from Liverpool who was locally famous, who asked the audience questions, got answers then repeated them 5 minutes later to gasps from everyone in the room!!! I'll keep an open mind either way, I'll be happy whether it's proven once and for all or disproven beyond any doubt. I think if i was dead and i was communicating through someone that i didnt know trying to contact someone that he didnt know i reckon i would be pretty precise. For example if i died and someone from my friend/family were in a hall trying to contact me i wouldn't be saying my name id be saying "see that person sitting 3 rows from the front and 2 in?, id like to speak to him/her please"....... He knew who he was contacting, they were right there and there was only 3 people in the room ;' He wasn't trying to contact the injured lad, only told what happened after he died. So telling a story like that, if you knew it to be true because you've seen it, there's never a need to be that precise I think labs point is that every medium uses the same, vague tactics that are reminiscent to cold reading in every way. I agree 100%, if I was dead I would say something like 'my mrs is called, tell her that dying is like....the afterlife is like this..etc and I would give several personal stories so she would know it to be true. Mediums just say things like 'I can see an old man, I think the name was...Eric, does Eric mean anything to you, did your Grandad know anyone called Eric?' then follow it up with 'I can see he had back problems, he tells me it used to hurt him but now it doesn't'. Which might seem like a hit, you could think 'how the feck did they know my Grandad had a bad back??' but, nearly every older man has back problems at some point, I am 24 and I have hurt my back several times moving heavy stuff like most people... If anyone wants an example of how mediums work (and you are in your 20's) send me a pm and I will send you a tailored script to you, based on the few things I can gather on your profile and see if you find it accurate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 You've got to sympathise with the 'spirits' for being slightly confused and not being able to remember full names etc. After all, with the number of people and other animals that've died over time, the 'other side' must be f***ing crowded by now . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 You've got to sympathise with the 'spirits' for being slightly confused and not being able to remember full names etc. After all, with the number of people and other animals that've died over time, the 'other side' must be f***ing crowded by now . Heaven is a big place mate.............. I remember reading a story about a man that died in a hospital bed but was brought back to life again. Anyway he said the stereotypical thing about floating up and looking down on himself as the doctors and nurses worked away on him. He said he would prove it and said there was a spanner lying on top of the strip light away up on the roof........someone looked and there the spanner was..... Now unless he was the hospitals electrician and it was his sanner that he'd lost feck knows how he knew that?? I remember my Grandad going into hospital as well and nearly died with a blood clot on the brain, he said the same thing about floating up.........mind you morphine is a wonderful thing.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 You've got to sympathise with the 'spirits' for being slightly confused and not being able to remember full names etc. After all, with the number of people and other animals that've died over time, the 'other side' must be f***ing crowded by now . Heaven is a big place mate.............. I remember reading a story about a man that died in a hospital bed but was brought back to life again. Anyway he said the stereotypical thing about floating up and looking down on himself as the doctors and nurses worked away on him. He said he would prove it and said there was a spanner lying on top of the strip light away up on the roof........someone looked and there the spanner was..... Now unless he was the hospitals electrician and it was his sanner that he'd lost feck knows how he knew that?? I remember my Grandad going into hospital as well and nearly died with a blood clot on the brain, he said the same thing about floating up.........mind you morphine is a wonderful thing.... There's loads of those stories (excuse the pun!) 'floating' around . In reality, I wonder how many blokes would, when doing there bit of floating, have noticed a spanner, and not took the opportunity to have a good look down the nurses tops!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 A mans man sees the spanner mate and thinks "Oh look some twat has left his spanner up there"............a perv like yourself thinks "look at the tits on that nurse trying to save my life"....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 A mans man sees the spanner mate and thinks "Oh look some twat has left his spanner up there"............a perv like yourself thinks "look at the tits on that nurse trying to save my life"....... Sorry lab, I should've included, for people of your sexual orientation, 'A look at the doctors dicks'!!! And who knows, a look at a nice pair of tits, and the thought of not seeing any again might be what brought them back to life! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 A mans man sees the spanner mate and thinks "Oh look some twat has left his spanner up there"............a perv like yourself thinks "look at the tits on that nurse trying to save my life"....... Sorry lab, I should've included, for people of your sexual orientation, 'A look at the doctors dicks'!!! And who knows, a look at a nice pair of tits, and the thought of not seeing any again might be what brought them back to life! This is all very sexist on your part Kenny.......you do realise we have male nurses and female doctors eh?......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 A mans man sees the spanner mate and thinks "Oh look some twat has left his spanner up there"............a perv like yourself thinks "look at the tits on that nurse trying to save my life"....... Sorry lab, I should've included, for people of your sexual orientation, 'A look at the doctors dicks'!!! And who knows, a look at a nice pair of tits, and the thought of not seeing any again might be what brought them back to life! This is all very sexist on your part Kenny.......you do realise we have male nurses and female doctors eh?......... I applaud you for championing the cause of political correctness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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