Dogs & Ferrets

[Ideation 8,217]

You are 100% right and its the same with all animals. whatever they are and whatever you want of them, breeding anything less than best to best is just a daft waste if time. My ferrets are to a far higher standard than my dog haha.

[chartpolski 28,459]

IMHO one of the biggest downfalls of lurcher owners is that they dont teach and inforce the word NO in there dogs and trainning .

A dog unbroken to ferts is not much use to me but some do hunt all there lives without the need to work with them.

 

In the numerous dogs I have owned I have trained each one to come off the hunt even in full flight with the simple command of NO.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, (to you), in my post; I'm not a ferreter, I don't own ferrets, and my dogs NEVER work with ferrets, even though I enjoy a days ferreting.

 

If I had a dog that could be called of "the hunt in full flight with a simple NO !" Then it wouldn't be in my kennel for long. It's desire, drive and instinct would not be what I wanted in a working dog.

 

Cheers.

 

Why

 

You have out of control dogs do you have any bidablitly in your dogs or does your desire equals unruly dogs.

 

You can have a dog with strong prey drive and instinct but still have total control your dog would not last long down here as it would be shot .

 

ATB Cookie

 

No, my dogs are not "out of control"; they are working dogs who do exactly what is asked of them. If I could call a dog off it's prey , in full flight, then I would question that dogs commitment !

 

Now, why would my dogs be shot "down here", if what they were doing was perfectly legal ??

 

Cheers.

[chartpolski 28,459]

Is it the ferret's first time out...if so they tend to mess about and are right pain's in the butt till they eventually click..

 

Yea Millet, it was the fert's first time out, I'm sure it will improve, but as I replied to Tomo, the post was a bit tongue in cheeck, just to illicit a few replies.

 

Cheers.

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

IMHO one of the biggest downfalls of lurcher owners is that they dont teach and inforce the word NO in there dogs and trainning .

A dog unbroken to ferts is not much use to me but some do hunt all there lives without the need to work with them.

 

In the numerous dogs I have owned I have trained each one to come off the hunt even in full flight with the simple command of NO.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, (to you), in my post; I'm not a ferreter, I don't own ferrets, and my dogs NEVER work with ferrets, even though I enjoy a days ferreting.

 

If I had a dog that could be called of "the hunt in full flight with a simple NO !" Then it wouldn't be in my kennel for long. It's desire, drive and instinct would not be what I wanted in a working dog.

 

Cheers.

 

Why

 

You have out of control dogs do you have any bidablitly in your dogs or does your desire equals unruly dogs.

 

You can have a dog with strong prey drive and instinct but still have total control your dog would not last long down here as it would be shot .

 

ATB Cookie

 

No, my dogs are not "out of control"; they are working dogs who do exactly what is asked of them. If I could call a dog off it's prey , in full flight, then I would question that dogs commitment !

 

Now, why would my dogs be shot "down here", if what they were doing was perfectly legal ??

 

Cheers.

 

Could your dogs be called of a deer course hare or livestock .

[Millet 4,497]

I have a young one here well over a year old now and and done nothing till a few month's back... it was a bag of shite to start with..knocking net's of and slow to enter.. i knew they was bunnies in a perticular set but nothing was bolted..so the older jill was used and bingo bunnies bolted for the hawk..dont get me wrong this is ferret of stuff i have had from being 13yr old so it has the mineral's it just need's the experience to get to it's full potential..so im thinking your bro's ferret is not a duffer..it just does not know what it is doing yet..after several outing's i am sure you will see a big diferance..

[johnny boy68 11,726]

IMHO one of the biggest downfalls of lurcher owners is that they dont teach and inforce the word NO in there dogs and trainning .

A dog unbroken to ferts is not much use to me but some do hunt all there lives without the need to work with them.

 

In the numerous dogs I have owned I have trained each one to come off the hunt even in full flight with the simple command of NO.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, (to you), in my post; I'm not a ferreter, I don't own ferrets, and my dogs NEVER work with ferrets, even though I enjoy a days ferreting.

 

If I had a dog that could be called of "the hunt in full flight with a simple NO !" Then it wouldn't be in my kennel for long. It's desire, drive and instinct would not be what I wanted in a working dog.

 

Cheers.

 

Why

 

You have out of control dogs do you have any bidablitly in your dogs or does your desire equals unruly dogs.

 

You can have a dog with strong prey drive and instinct but still have total control your dog would not last long down here as it would be shot .

 

ATB Cookie

 

No, my dogs are not "out of control"; they are working dogs who do exactly what is asked of them. If I could call a dog off it's prey , in full flight, then I would question that dogs commitment !

 

Now, why would my dogs be shot "down here", if what they were doing was perfectly legal ??

 

Cheers.

I thought I could call my dog off aswell Charti but alas...........

[chartpolski 28,459]

IMHO one of the biggest downfalls of lurcher owners is that they dont teach and inforce the word NO in there dogs and trainning .

A dog unbroken to ferts is not much use to me but some do hunt all there lives without the need to work with them.

 

In the numerous dogs I have owned I have trained each one to come off the hunt even in full flight with the simple command of NO.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, (to you), in my post; I'm not a ferreter, I don't own ferrets, and my dogs NEVER work with ferrets, even though I enjoy a days ferreting.

 

If I had a dog that could be called of "the hunt in full flight with a simple NO !" Then it wouldn't be in my kennel for long. It's desire, drive and instinct would not be what I wanted in a working dog.

 

Cheers.

 

Why

 

You have out of control dogs do you have any bidablitly in your dogs or does your desire equals unruly dogs.

 

You can have a dog with strong prey drive and instinct but still have total control your dog would not last long down here as it would be shot .

 

ATB Cookie

 

No, my dogs are not "out of control"; they are working dogs who do exactly what is asked of them. If I could call a dog off it's prey , in full flight, then I would question that dogs commitment !

 

Now, why would my dogs be shot "down here", if what they were doing was perfectly legal ??

 

Cheers.

 

Could your dogs be called of a deer course hare or livestock .

 

Every dog I have owned has been stock broken, It's one of the first things you do with working dogs. But they certainly couldn't be called off a course... that's what they are bred and trained to do !! I feel this converation is going nowhere...If you are happy that you can call you dogs of in full flight, then that is up to you.

Cheers.

[Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin]

IMHO one of the biggest downfalls of lurcher owners is that they dont teach and inforce the word NO in there dogs and trainning .

A dog unbroken to ferts is not much use to me but some do hunt all there lives without the need to work with them.

 

In the numerous dogs I have owned I have trained each one to come off the hunt even in full flight with the simple command of NO.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, (to you), in my post; I'm not a ferreter, I don't own ferrets, and my dogs NEVER work with ferrets, even though I enjoy a days ferreting.

 

If I had a dog that could be called of "the hunt in full flight with a simple NO !" Then it wouldn't be in my kennel for long. It's desire, drive and instinct would not be what I wanted in a working dog.

 

Cheers.

 

Why

 

You have out of control dogs do you have any bidablitly in your dogs or does your desire equals unruly dogs.

 

You can have a dog with strong prey drive and instinct but still have total control your dog would not last long down here as it would be shot .

 

ATB Cookie

 

No, my dogs are not "out of control"; they are working dogs who do exactly what is asked of them. If I could call a dog off it's prey , in full flight, then I would question that dogs commitment !

 

Now, why would my dogs be shot "down here", if what they were doing was perfectly legal ??

 

Cheers.

 

Could your dogs be called of a deer course hare or livestock .

 

Every dog I have owned has been stock broken, It's one of the first things you do with working dogs. But they certainly couldn't be called off a course... that's what they are bred and trained to do !! I feel this converation is going nowhere...If you are happy that you can call you dogs of in full flight, then that is up to you.

Cheers.

 

Agree but you have answered the question why the dog would be shot running deer will not be tolerated by our keepers and rightly so as there a form of income for the estates.

While working over ferrets or lamp or bushing we push alot of deer out and you must have a dog who will recall.

 

Good luck with your trainning in future intresting views on THL as alway.

 

ATB Cookie

[chartpolski 28,459]

Cookie... I was talking about FERRETING, I never mentioned DEER, the more I read your posts, the more I worry !! I will not reply to anything you say from now on...I think you are a wrong 'un !! I may be wrong, but I won't take that chance !!

 

Cheers.

Edited February 6, 2012 by chartpolski

[Ideation 8,217]

IMHO one of the biggest downfalls of lurcher owners is that they dont teach and inforce the word NO in there dogs and trainning .

A dog unbroken to ferts is not much use to me but some do hunt all there lives without the need to work with them.

 

In the numerous dogs I have owned I have trained each one to come off the hunt even in full flight with the simple command of NO.

 

ATB Cookie

 

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, (to you), in my post; I'm not a ferreter, I don't own ferrets, and my dogs NEVER work with ferrets, even though I enjoy a days ferreting.

 

If I had a dog that could be called of "the hunt in full flight with a simple NO !" Then it wouldn't be in my kennel for long. It's desire, drive and instinct would not be what I wanted in a working dog.

 

Cheers.

 

Why

 

You have out of control dogs do you have any bidablitly in your dogs or does your desire equals unruly dogs.

 

You can have a dog with strong prey drive and instinct but still have total control your dog would not last long down here as it would be shot .

 

ATB Cookie

 

No, my dogs are not "out of control"; they are working dogs who do exactly what is asked of them. If I could call a dog off it's prey , in full flight, then I would question that dogs commitment !

 

Now, why would my dogs be shot "down here", if what they were doing was perfectly legal ??

 

Cheers.

I thought I could call my dog off aswell Charti but alas...........

 

Well . . . . it begins with the right letter He's just lost a bit of weight innit officer

[2.8 guy 403]

a good ferret can be hard to come by,but if you get a good one its worth its weight in gold, i regard the ferret as one of highest aids for hunting rabbits and lots of fun too!

[BLACKWATER... 157]

good ferrets are woth there wieght in gold to keen ferreters a lot are getting diluted with the pet trade

[Blue one 89]

How long would yea give a young ferret before you know its no good?

I give mine 2 years.

[trigger2 3,404]

How long would yea give a young ferret before you know its no good?

I give mine 2 years.

i dont do much ferreting but surely you should have some idea of how good a ferret is going to be quicker than 2 years. as long has you have a good marking dog then you are sure theres a rabbit home 9 out of 10 times and you start the ferret on small warrens to improve the chances of finding the rabbit you should be able to tell fairly soon.

[Blue one 89]

How long would yea give a young ferret before you know its no good?

I give mine 2 years.

i dont do much ferreting but surely you should have some idea of how good a ferret is going to be quicker than 2 years. as long has you have a good marking dog then you are sure theres a rabbit home 9 out of 10 times and you start the ferret on small warrens to improve the chances of finding the rabbit you should be able to tell fairly soon.

 

I have had ferrets in the passed, that did not work well their first season, but come the next season, were flying it.

They need regular work mind, i also think, if you out a few times a week and the young ferret gets plenty of chances, then to proove its self in the first year, is better than waiting 2 years. As i dont ferret as much as i use to, i now give them 2 seasons, as they dont get as many opertunitys to work.