foxfan 479 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) I doubt that the average saluki would be worth a damn on fox. I would'nt know my friend, I just sit down at my computer on my fat ass and have an opinion on everything I've never done myself. There are Saluki's that did relish them, not that I know of course.... First off, we aint friends.........Secondly, looky here dick beater, its hard enough to get dogs bred to catch and kill to do it consistently let alone dogs bred primarily for hare and some tiny ass gazelle thing. I seen videos of them dog gone saluki where they run them gazelle for like 5 minutes friggin straight. That shit is unbelievable. I am in awe at their speed and endurance. I know that good fox dogs could never ever do such a thing. Why is it that saluki and whippet folks get their panties in a bunch over shit like this. They know their dogs cant do it but they get on here and throw a damn fit about how they can cuz they read it in a book somewhere. There might well be a lot of Salukis bred primarily for hare especially in the west, but that is certainly not the case in their native lands, in many regions first is primary quarry. http://www.youtube.c.../Unatbek/videos What sort of a c,unt would allow a protracted battle like that while they stand there and film it ! Put a knife in the thing and finish it. Edited December 21, 2011 by foxfan 1 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 This topic has now confused me ????????????????? Join the f****n club. Quote Link to post
iworkwhippets 13,132 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I doubt that the average saluki would be worth a damn on fox. I would'nt know my friend, I just sit down at my computer on my fat ass and have an opinion on everything I've never done myself. There are Saluki's that did relish them, not that I know of course.... First off, we aint friends.........Secondly, looky here dick beater, its hard enough to get dogs bred to catch and kill to do it consistently let alone dogs bred primarily for hare and some tiny ass gazelle thing. I seen videos of them dog gone saluki where they run them gazelle for like 5 minutes friggin straight. That shit is unbelievable. I am in awe at their speed and endurance. I know that good fox dogs could never ever do such a thing. Why is it that saluki and whippet folks get their panties in a bunch over shit like this. They know their dogs cant do it but they get on here and throw a damn fit about how they can cuz they read it in a book somewhere. There might well be a lot of Salukis bred primarily for hare especially in the west, but that is certainly not the case in their native lands, in many regions first is primary quarry. http://www.youtube.c.../Unatbek/videos Absolutely pathetic 1 Quote Link to post
WANNABE ROOKIE 8 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) I love Xmas. Edited December 26, 2011 by WANNABE ROOKIE Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Only one of mine has not taken them with gusto, with the one didn't it was more like he viewed them as off limits in the same way as he would view sheep, poulty etc he just didn't look at them. He was a rescued dog so I did not have him as young dog so I don't know if with correct entering things might have been different. He wasn't fiery dog like all my other Saluki have been so maybe it just wasn't in him. 3 of the Salukis I have/have had would kill other dogs given the opportunity that I have no doubt about and that includes those larger then themselves, I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I'm just telling it as it is. Would the do a rottie or akita? Well it's funny you should mention an Akita because, my first Saluki had incident with a local drug dealers Akita which was roaming the streets and he throated it before the Akita knew what had hit it, this was one of the first instances whereby I quickly came to learn that while most dogs merely go through the motions when clashing with other dogs, this Saluki was deadly serious and his intent was to kill the other dog no doubt about. Of cause 90% or more of rotties akitas etc have no experience of disabling large animals the only thing they use their teeth for is crunching kibble, working running dogs know how to disable and ultimately kill. I'm sorry I've owned Akitas and believe me if it's a typical example of the breed I'd give any sight hound 3 mins max. My old friends 1st x bull/greyhound was nearlly sent to pet cemetery in about 1 minute when our Akita picked it up by the spine and threw it around like a ragdoll. The dog was a danger to other dogs around his size, he was pretty tolerant with smaller dogs apart from staffies Well that maybe the case but but this one was too slow and Salukis are not like many sighthounds they are incredibly elastic they can near turn themselves inside out to make contact or avoid contact, before that akita knew it my Saluki was clamped down on it's windpipe and the akita could not get round to make any contant on the Saluki, it was only when the akita started to try to get away with my Saluki getting dragged still ragging with me rawing at him to leave it that he either lost his grip or released because of me shouting and the akita high tailed it like big soft pup but I tell you straight that Akita was weakening through oxygen depravation in the same way as deer do when a dog gets on the windpipe. I've no reason to make it up, like BBB says it's not impressive to see your near kill someones dog even if the other dog started it. There is more to saluki's than you would think some of not not always a good thing when they are kept in built up areas, along ways from where they were developed. Bigliks my dog was Cruise of ShildonXDelightful Lady my old bitch and her son who are every bit as much a liability are down from that line. Don't like to call a man a lier but that event must be as rare as rocking horse shit 1 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,907 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Only one of mine has not taken them with gusto, with the one didn't it was more like he viewed them as off limits in the same way as he would view sheep, poulty etc he just didn't look at them. He was a rescued dog so I did not have him as young dog so I don't know if with correct entering things might have been different. He wasn't fiery dog like all my other Saluki have been so maybe it just wasn't in him. 3 of the Salukis I have/have had would kill other dogs given the opportunity that I have no doubt about and that includes those larger then themselves, I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I'm just telling it as it is. Would the do a rottie or akita? Well it's funny you should mention an Akita because, my first Saluki had incident with a local drug dealers Akita which was roaming the streets and he throated it before the Akita knew what had hit it, this was one of the first instances whereby I quickly came to learn that while most dogs merely go through the motions when clashing with other dogs, this Saluki was deadly serious and his intent was to kill the other dog no doubt about. Of cause 90% or more of rotties akitas etc have no experience of disabling large animals the only thing they use their teeth for is crunching kibble, working running dogs know how to disable and ultimately kill. I'm sorry I've owned Akitas and believe me if it's a typical example of the breed I'd give any sight hound 3 mins max. My old friends 1st x bull/greyhound was nearlly sent to pet cemetery in about 1 minute when our Akita picked it up by the spine and threw it around like a ragdoll. The dog was a danger to other dogs around his size, he was pretty tolerant with smaller dogs apart from staffies Well that maybe the case but but this one was too slow and Salukis are not like many sighthounds they are incredibly elastic they can near turn themselves inside out to make contact or avoid contact, before that akita knew it my Saluki was clamped down on it's windpipe and the akita could not get round to make any contant on the Saluki, it was only when the akita started to try to get away with my Saluki getting dragged still ragging with me rawing at him to leave it that he either lost his grip or released because of me shouting and the akita high tailed it like big soft pup but I tell you straight that Akita was weakening through oxygen depravation in the same way as deer do when a dog gets on the windpipe. I've no reason to make it up, like BBB says it's not impressive to see your near kill someones dog even if the other dog started it. There is more to saluki's than you would think some of not not always a good thing when they are kept in built up areas, along ways from where they were developed. Bigliks my dog was Cruise of ShildonXDelightful Lady my old bitch and her son who are every bit as much a liability are down from that line. Only one of mine has not taken them with gusto, with the one didn't it was more like he viewed them as off limits in the same way as he would view sheep, poulty etc he just didn't look at them. He was a rescued dog so I did not have him as young dog so I don't know if with correct entering things might have been different. He wasn't fiery dog like all my other Saluki have been so maybe it just wasn't in him. 3 of the Salukis I have/have had would kill other dogs given the opportunity that I have no doubt about and that includes those larger then themselves, I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I'm just telling it as it is. Would the do a rottie or akita? Well it's funny you should mention an Akita because, my first Saluki had incident with a local drug dealers Akita which was roaming the streets and he throated it before the Akita knew what had hit it, this was one of the first instances whereby I quickly came to learn that while most dogs merely go through the motions when clashing with other dogs, this Saluki was deadly serious and his intent was to kill the other dog no doubt about. Of cause 90% or more of rotties akitas etc have no experience of disabling large animals the only thing they use their teeth for is crunching kibble, working running dogs know how to disable and ultimately kill. I'm sorry I've owned Akitas and believe me if it's a typical example of the breed I'd give any sight hound 3 mins max. My old friends 1st x bull/greyhound was nearlly sent to pet cemetery in about 1 minute when our Akita picked it up by the spine and threw it around like a ragdoll. The dog was a danger to other dogs around his size, he was pretty tolerant with smaller dogs apart from staffies Well that maybe the case but but this one was too slow and Salukis are not like many sighthounds they are incredibly elastic they can near turn themselves inside out to make contact or avoid contact, before that akita knew it my Saluki was clamped down on it's windpipe and the akita could not get round to make any contant on the Saluki, it was only when the akita started to try to get away with my Saluki getting dragged still ragging with me rawing at him to leave it that he either lost his grip or released because of me shouting and the akita high tailed it like big soft pup but I tell you straight that Akita was weakening through oxygen depravation in the same way as deer do when a dog gets on the windpipe. I've no reason to make it up, like BBB says it's not impressive to see your near kill someones dog even if the other dog started it. There is more to saluki's than you would think some of not not always a good thing when they are kept in built up areas, along ways from where they were developed. Bigliks my dog was Cruise of ShildonXDelightful Lady my old bitch and her son who are every bit as much a liability are down from that line. most of the u/k stuff got kizzy /cruise at the back of them somewhere close bred , .bound to get a few loopy ones . ,line breeding brings bad traits aswell as the goodtraits!! .. 1 Quote Link to post
Saluqihounds 150 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Since when has kennel fighting proven to give the minerals for the job out in the field? I'm even more confused now.... I doesn't but it's evidence that they not the wet blankets that many would have you believe they are and IME many of these fiery types seem to show that bit extra out in the field, like every thing its finding the balance. Quote Link to post
Saluqihounds 150 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Only one of mine has not taken them with gusto, with the one didn't it was more like he viewed them as off limits in the same way as he would view sheep, poulty etc he just didn't look at them. He was a rescued dog so I did not have him as young dog so I don't know if with correct entering things might have been different. He wasn't fiery dog like all my other Saluki have been so maybe it just wasn't in him. 3 of the Salukis I have/have had would kill other dogs given the opportunity that I have no doubt about and that includes those larger then themselves, I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I'm just telling it as it is. Would the do a rottie or akita? Well it's funny you should mention an Akita because, my first Saluki had incident with a local drug dealers Akita which was roaming the streets and he throated it before the Akita knew what had hit it, this was one of the first instances whereby I quickly came to learn that while most dogs merely go through the motions when clashing with other dogs, this Saluki was deadly serious and his intent was to kill the other dog no doubt about. Of cause 90% or more of rotties akitas etc have no experience of disabling large animals the only thing they use their teeth for is crunching kibble, working running dogs know how to disable and ultimately kill. I'm sorry I've owned Akitas and believe me if it's a typical example of the breed I'd give any sight hound 3 mins max. My old friends 1st x bull/greyhound was nearlly sent to pet cemetery in about 1 minute when our Akita picked it up by the spine and threw it around like a ragdoll. The dog was a danger to other dogs around his size, he was pretty tolerant with smaller dogs apart from staffies Well that maybe the case but but this one was too slow and Salukis are not like many sighthounds they are incredibly elastic they can near turn themselves inside out to make contact or avoid contact, before that akita knew it my Saluki was clamped down on it's windpipe and the akita could not get round to make any contant on the Saluki, it was only when the akita started to try to get away with my Saluki getting dragged still ragging with me rawing at him to leave it that he either lost his grip or released because of me shouting and the akita high tailed it like big soft pup but I tell you straight that Akita was weakening through oxygen depravation in the same way as deer do when a dog gets on the windpipe. I've no reason to make it up, like BBB says it's not impressive to see your near kill someones dog even if the other dog started it. There is more to saluki's than you would think some of not not always a good thing when they are kept in built up areas, along ways from where they were developed. Bigliks my dog was Cruise of ShildonXDelightful Lady my old bitch and her son who are every bit as much a liability are down from that line. Don't like to call a man a lier but that event must be as rare as rocking horse shit When it was happening in front of me ie my Saluki running into the Akita I expected one dead or badly damage Saluki, it didn't happen and I was as surprised as you are dubious. In years I owned the he did similar things with a few dogs mostly collie sized dog all throated in the exact same way, often he would try to walk away while carrying/dragging by the throat in an attempt to finish the dog away from interruption in a really calm and controlled manner. He was not a dog to mess with whether man or beast it made no odds. There are a few people that new his ways. Anyway with this in mind a 20lb fox is hardly any test at all. Quote Link to post
Saluqihounds 150 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 I doubt that the average saluki would be worth a damn on fox. I would'nt know my friend, I just sit down at my computer on my fat ass and have an opinion on everything I've never done myself. There are Saluki's that did relish them, not that I know of course.... First off, we aint friends.........Secondly, looky here dick beater, its hard enough to get dogs bred to catch and kill to do it consistently let alone dogs bred primarily for hare and some tiny ass gazelle thing. I seen videos of them dog gone saluki where they run them gazelle for like 5 minutes friggin straight. That shit is unbelievable. I am in awe at their speed and endurance. I know that good fox dogs could never ever do such a thing. Why is it that saluki and whippet folks get their panties in a bunch over shit like this. They know their dogs cant do it but they get on here and throw a damn fit about how they can cuz they read it in a book somewhere. There might well be a lot of Salukis bred primarily for hare especially in the west, but that is certainly not the case in their native lands, in many regions first is primary quarry. http://www.youtube.c.../Unatbek/videos What sort of a c,unt would allow a protracted battle like that while they stand there and film it ! Put a knife in the thing and finish it. It's a young dog learning it's trade I'd say and it not like it's ripping into it. Sometimes you just have to give a dog a chance to learn technique, if you go running everytime you'll spent your life having to help. I agree it's not what i'd be doing but I see that he want the dog to learn to handle deer. Quote Link to post
rigz07 6 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 my saluki bull grey will take fox not pure saluki but in my opinion a bit of saluki is a good thing seems on this site a lot of people want to slate salukis and whippets and the people that do slate them have probably never owned either its all about personal preference dont see the need to slate other breeds unless you have some kind of far back history with the breed even then its personal prefrence i can imagine a saluki would have a go probably take fox depending on character of the dog obvs 1 Quote Link to post
whippet08 8 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Only one of mine has not taken them with gusto, with the one didn't it was more like he viewed them as off limits in the same way as he would view sheep, poulty etc he just didn't look at them. He was a rescued dog so I did not have him as young dog so I don't know if with correct entering things might have been different. He wasn't fiery dog like all my other Saluki have been so maybe it just wasn't in him. 3 of the Salukis I have/have had would kill other dogs given the opportunity that I have no doubt about and that includes those larger then themselves, I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I'm just telling it as it is. Would the do a rottie or akita? Well it's funny you should mention an Akita because, my first Saluki had incident with a local drug dealers Akita which was roaming the streets and he throated it before the Akita knew what had hit it, this was one of the first instances whereby I quickly came to learn that while most dogs merely go through the motions when clashing with other dogs, this Saluki was deadly serious and his intent was to kill the other dog no doubt about. Of cause 90% or more of rotties akitas etc have no experience of disabling large animals the only thing they use their teeth for is crunching kibble, working running dogs know how to disable and ultimately kill. I'm sorry I've owned Akitas and believe me if it's a typical example of the breed I'd give any sight hound 3 mins max. My old friends 1st x bull/greyhound was nearlly sent to pet cemetery in about 1 minute when our Akita picked it up by the spine and threw it around like a ragdoll. The dog was a danger to other dogs around his size, he was pretty tolerant with smaller dogs apart from staffies Well that maybe the case but but this one was too slow and Salukis are not like many sighthounds they are incredibly elastic they can near turn themselves inside out to make contact or avoid contact, before that akita knew it my Saluki was clamped down on it's windpipe and the akita could not get round to make any contant on the Saluki, it was only when the akita started to try to get away with my Saluki getting dragged still ragging with me rawing at him to leave it that he either lost his grip or released because of me shouting and the akita high tailed it like big soft pup but I tell you straight that Akita was weakening through oxygen depravation in the same way as deer do when a dog gets on the windpipe. I've no reason to make it up, like BBB says it's not impressive to see your near kill someones dog even if the other dog started it. There is more to saluki's than you would think some of not not always a good thing when they are kept in built up areas, along ways from where they were developed. Bigliks my dog was Cruise of ShildonXDelightful Lady my old bitch and her son who are every bit as much a liability are down from that line. Don't like to call a man a lier but that event must be as rare as rocking horse shit When it was happening in front of me ie my Saluki running into the Akita I expected one dead or badly damage Saluki, it didn't happen and I was as surprised as you are dubious. In years I owned the he did similar things with a few dogs mostly collie sized dog all throated in the exact same way, often he would try to walk away while carrying/dragging by the throat in an attempt to finish the dog away from interruption in a really calm and controlled manner. He was not a dog to mess with whether man or beast it made no odds. There are a few people that new his ways. Anyway with this in mind a 20lb fox is hardly any test at all. this thread is way messed up, This saluki in question that throats other dogs and drags them away holding there throat,after the first one did you not think that your dog is a bit of a risk to other dogs, i presume all these other dogs came over to your dog and started the fight,if not then i would of thought youd keep it on a lead publicly after the first inccident,i hardly ever rant on this site, but viscious dogs un controlled do wind me up,i do apoagise if all these throated dogs came to your dog and caused fight,but if i was walking either of my dogs and a saluki come over throated one of em,well ill leave it there,. Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Pure Greyhounds will take fox Pure Deerhounds will take fox Pure collies will take fox So cant see any reason why the odd pure saluki wont take them 1 Quote Link to post
GrCh 856 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Only one of mine has not taken them with gusto, with the one didn't it was more like he viewed them as off limits in the same way as he would view sheep, poulty etc he just didn't look at them. He was a rescued dog so I did not have him as young dog so I don't know if with correct entering things might have been different. He wasn't fiery dog like all my other Saluki have been so maybe it just wasn't in him. 3 of the Salukis I have/have had would kill other dogs given the opportunity that I have no doubt about and that includes those larger then themselves, I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I'm just telling it as it is. Would the do a rottie or akita? Well it's funny you should mention an Akita because, my first Saluki had incident with a local drug dealers Akita which was roaming the streets and he throated it before the Akita knew what had hit it, this was one of the first instances whereby I quickly came to learn that while most dogs merely go through the motions when clashing with other dogs, this Saluki was deadly serious and his intent was to kill the other dog no doubt about. Of cause 90% or more of rotties akitas etc have no experience of disabling large animals the only thing they use their teeth for is crunching kibble, working running dogs know how to disable and ultimately kill. I'm sorry I've owned Akitas and believe me if it's a typical example of the breed I'd give any sight hound 3 mins max. My old friends 1st x bull/greyhound was nearlly sent to pet cemetery in about 1 minute when our Akita picked it up by the spine and threw it around like a ragdoll. The dog was a danger to other dogs around his size, he was pretty tolerant with smaller dogs apart from staffies Akitas i've seen are not worth f**k all. Quote Link to post
WILF 49,665 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 I doubt that the average saluki would be worth a damn on fox. Not always the case matey, I knew of a couple of saluki crosses that absolutely leathered foxes with a real hatred before the ban.....not massive numbers, but would get into 3 or 4 a night no problem and hunt them on there own in the day as well. Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Only one of mine has not taken them with gusto, with the one didn't it was more like he viewed them as off limits in the same way as he would view sheep, poulty etc he just didn't look at them. He was a rescued dog so I did not have him as young dog so I don't know if with correct entering things might have been different. He wasn't fiery dog like all my other Saluki have been so maybe it just wasn't in him. 3 of the Salukis I have/have had would kill other dogs given the opportunity that I have no doubt about and that includes those larger then themselves, I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I'm just telling it as it is. Would the do a rottie or akita? Well it's funny you should mention an Akita because, my first Saluki had incident with a local drug dealers Akita which was roaming the streets and he throated it before the Akita knew what had hit it, this was one of the first instances whereby I quickly came to learn that while most dogs merely go through the motions when clashing with other dogs, this Saluki was deadly serious and his intent was to kill the other dog no doubt about. Of cause 90% or more of rotties akitas etc have no experience of disabling large animals the only thing they use their teeth for is crunching kibble, working running dogs know how to disable and ultimately kill. I'm sorry I've owned Akitas and believe me if it's a typical example of the breed I'd give any sight hound 3 mins max. My old friends 1st x bull/greyhound was nearlly sent to pet cemetery in about 1 minute when our Akita picked it up by the spine and threw it around like a ragdoll. The dog was a danger to other dogs around his size, he was pretty tolerant with smaller dogs apart from staffies Akitas i've seen are not worth f**k all. You've obviously haven't seen many Quote Link to post
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